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nklsbckmnn avatar nklsbckmnn commented on September 26, 2024 1

Oh, of course, sorry.

to get a plan you need some previous act of planning

This isn't required by the definition of Plan though. And aren't there alternative ways for a Plan to come into existence? I'm not sure "pure mental acts" are even covered by Acts. Even if they are, there might be unconscious processes that lead to Plans and those are not Acts of Planning.

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nklsbckmnn avatar nklsbckmnn commented on September 26, 2024

an act of planning requires a plan

It only requires the Plan to exist at its end (see the definition for has output).

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avsculley avatar avsculley commented on September 26, 2024

It requires a plan in that it is defined as a planned act.

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cameronmore avatar cameronmore commented on September 26, 2024

If so, then 'Act of planning' is a 'planned act' in a problematic way.

@avsculley I don't know that this is the case. A Plan is stronger, in the sense that it lays out more explicit steps and goals for an Agent than just a Directive ICE. When I sit down to formulate a plan, I already have a sense, an idea, of what a Plan should be--it should have achievable steps that follow each other in sequence which bring about some end state. None of that is required for a DICE.

It is not a trivial thing to learn how to plan, or how to plan well, and therefore I do not think there is a circularity

(open to being wrong of course)

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