Apply for funding to help develop Open Cloud Mesh within this community about ocm-api

[guidoaben]

Godspeed. I'm entirely in favour.

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On 14 March 2023 3:45:37 pm GMT+01:00, Michiel de Jong ***@***.***> wrote: As discussed at the CS3 2023 conference last week, I offer myself as a contact point for applying for funding to help improve our documentation, specification, test suite, and ultimately also OCM itself. I already spoke with @schiessle, Jakub Moscicki, @glpatcern, @gmgigi96, @labkode, @smesterheide, @andreasfk and @guidoaben about this at the conference and I got the impression (but correct me if I'm wrong) that we all think this is a good idea. Not everybody needs funding, so some people could just add their name as an "advisor" instead of as a team member, or maybe you approve but don't want to link your name to OCM, or to this particular initiative to do some more work on OCM now, that's also fine. CC also @LovisaLugnegard and @ishank011 from https://github.com/cs3org/OCM-API/graphs/contributors. Is anyone missing from this list who we should ping about this? I was thinking of applying for a 50,000 euro grant from https://nlnet.nl/entrust/ (deadline: 1 April). I can create a first draft text and maybe we can have a video call some time next week to discuss it. I'll also ping each of you individually so we can determine who wants to be involved in which way, and put together a team and some milestones we want to work on. I think the main goal would be to: * improve the documentation (for instance, write the spec down properly, in RFC style) * improve the test suite (it's still mostly manual at this point) * describe optional features (a number of interesting routes to explore have been proposed) I think an anti-goal would be to redesign OCM in a way that's incompatible with what exists now. So if you just implement OCM or use it in any way, then hopefully this activity will either benefit you, or it will leave your situation as it is. Given the open nature of this protocol we just want to help improve the quality of the work that already exists, we don't want to end up hijacking or breaking it in any way! :) -- Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: #67 You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Message ID: ***@***.***>

[andreasfk]

HIFIS will absolutely participate as well. As for the role, pro bono should be OK for us, whatever this means in terms of "advisor" or such.

[michielbdejong]

I found https://nlnet.nl/core/ which is new (since last month) and feels like an even better fit.
I'll draft something here: https://hackmd.io/noVXpB2NT9mSz4OOikboGw

[guidoaben]

let me know when you want me to make an editing pass over your draft. Keen to. *From:* Michiel de Jong ***@***.***> *Sent:* 20 March 2023 14:55 *To:* cs3org/OCM-API ***@***.***> *Cc:* Guido Aben ***@***.***>; Mention ***@***.***> *Subject:* Re: [cs3org/OCM-API] Apply for funding to help develop Open Cloud Mesh within this community (Issue #67) I found https://nlnet.nl/core/ which is new (since last month) and feels like an even better fit. I'll draft something here: https://hackmd.io/noVXpB2NT9mSz4OOikboGw — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#67 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAZSMECJQV5OS3NKJTH26ETW5BOUDANCNFSM6AAAAAAV2RNQEE> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: < ***@***.***>

[michielbdejong]

Thanks! Sorry, I hadn't made the HackMD public, that is fixed now.
I have only written the first half so far, but it's really short and simple anyway.

I think we have a strong case. What I want to emphasise in the proposal:

1. OCM is awesome,
2. it's used in practice,
3. it has already received funding in the past from different vendors. Then from Géant. Then from CS4MESH4EOSC. Now that funding is ending too and we need a relatively small amount of money to not only keep the momentum, but also do some potentially high-impact and much-needed work on it,
4. we have a very good team coming together to carry out the work.

We are going to have a video call about it on Wednesday and then submit it on Friday 31 March.

[guidoaben]

tee hee but now in a practical sense you still haven’t made it public! What’s the URL? *From:* Michiel de Jong ***@***.***> *Sent:* 23 March 2023 15:53 *To:* cs3org/OCM-API ***@***.***> *Cc:* Guido Aben ***@***.***>; Mention ***@***.***> *Subject:* Re: [cs3org/OCM-API] Apply for funding to help develop Open Cloud Mesh within this community (Issue #67) Thanks! Sorry, I hadn't made the HackMD public, that is fixed now. I have only written the first half so far, but it's really short and simple anyway. I think we have a strong case. What I want to emphasise in the proposal: 1. OCM is awesome, 2. it's used in practice, 3. it has already received funding in the past from different vendors. Then from Géant. Then from CS4MESH4EOSC. Now that funding is ending too and we need a relatively small amount of money to not only keep the momentum, but also do some potentially high-impact and much-needed work on it, 4. we have a very good team coming together to carry out the work. We are going to have a video call about it on Wednesday and then submit it on Friday 31 March. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#67 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAZSMEBMVZNTWGG5WLYJAO3W5RPVXANCNFSM6AAAAAAV2RNQEE> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: < ***@***.***>

[guidoaben]

specifically re 4.), we have a very good team _*including vendor representation*_ -- imho that buy-in makes quite the difference. This proposed effort is well guaranteed to not result in throw-away code. *From:* Michiel de Jong ***@***.***> *Sent:* 23 March 2023 15:53 *To:* cs3org/OCM-API ***@***.***> *Cc:* Guido Aben ***@***.***>; Mention ***@***.***> *Subject:* Re: [cs3org/OCM-API] Apply for funding to help develop Open Cloud Mesh within this community (Issue #67) Thanks! Sorry, I hadn't made the HackMD public, that is fixed now. I have only written the first half so far, but it's really short and simple anyway. I think we have a strong case. What I want to emphasise in the proposal: 1. OCM is awesome, 2. it's used in practice, 3. it has already received funding in the past from different vendors. Then from Géant. Then from CS4MESH4EOSC. Now that funding is ending too and we need a relatively small amount of money to not only keep the momentum, but also do some potentially high-impact and much-needed work on it, 4. we have a very good team coming together to carry out the work. We are going to have a video call about it on Wednesday and then submit it on Friday 31 March. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#67 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAZSMEBMVZNTWGG5WLYJAO3W5RPVXANCNFSM6AAAAAAV2RNQEE> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: < ***@***.***>

[michielbdejong]

tee hee but now in a practical sense you still haven’t made it public!
What’s the URL?

https://hackmd.io/noVXpB2NT9mSz4OOikboGw

including vendor representation

Good point! I'll see if we can make that a bit more explicit in the text still.

[glpatcern]

The request for funding was sent, thanks Michiel!