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julienguy avatar julienguy commented on July 20, 2024

For the last point, one could use one of the redrock simulation runs.
For several definitions of SNR (r-band , around 4000A restframe ...):

  • compute SNR on spectra of cframe files
  • compute correlation coefficient of SNR with the redshift error reported by redrock

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moustakas avatar moustakas commented on July 20, 2024

I've generated a set of reference spectra (No 2, bullet two in @dkirkby's original post) for the BGS sample. See desihub/desisim#285 or just the notebook --
https://github.com/desihub/desisim/blob/bgs-refspec/doc/nb/bgs-reference-spectra.ipynb

The spectra themselves are at NERSC in
/global/project/projectdirs/desi/spectro/sim/bgs-refspec/bgs-refspec-v1.0.fits

Comments are welcome.

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dkirkby avatar dkirkby commented on July 20, 2024

Here is a first look at the reference spectra provided by @moustakas (details in desihub/desisim#285).

The redshift distribution is reasonable (with some spikes due to realistic clustering). The magnitudes cover a range, so I am rescaling them all to DECam-r = 19.5 to define the "threshold" sample.

refspec

Here are the fiberloss fractions calculated for each target in the sample:

bgs_fiberloss

These are generally low compared with the DARK program targets because of the larger galaxy sizes. The strong correlation with redshift is because I scale disk and bulge sizes with DA(z), so closer galaxies have less overlap with the fiber:

disk half-light radius = 4.7" DA(0.1) / DA(z)
bulge half-light radius = 1.3" DA(0.1) / DA(z)

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moustakas avatar moustakas commented on July 20, 2024

I've begun characterizing the redshift efficiency of BGS targets under "nominal" observing conditions -- see desihub/desisim#286. This work is still preliminary because it's only based on 1000 spectra and also because the fiberloss fractions are not totally up to date with the ongoing work by @dkirkby (although I'm not sure in what sense). But it nevertheless gives a rough idea of how we should expect to perform with 5-minute exposures.

Comments are welcome here or at desihub/desisim#286.

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dkirkby avatar dkirkby commented on July 20, 2024

The code and notebook used to develop this model is now checked into desihub/surveysim#56

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schlafly avatar schlafly commented on July 20, 2024

We've defined effective exposure times for the BRIGHT program, which is the extent to which desisurvey cares about this issue. I'm inclined to close. There's a PR to implement a better sky model in surveysim
desihub/surveysim#79
but that doesn't touch desisurvey directly.

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