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jschlyter avatar jschlyter commented on June 2, 2024 2

@PeterEbraert This would be most unfortunate - how would that work at in inspection point? And how does the person verifying know that he/she must scan multiple HCERTs?

The schema was design explicitly to allow for multiple vaccinations etc., just for this use case. E.g. someone would be vaccinated with vaccin A and for some reason followed by B, both can go into the same DGC.

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gabywh avatar gabywh commented on June 2, 2024 1

@PeterEbraert nothing preventing you doing that, LU are doing the same. Is a valid legal option that is supported by the DGC Schema. As @jschlyter points out, this may not be the most user-friendly approach, which is why the DGC Schema is designed to also accomodate those Member States who wish to incorporate more than one certificate per QR code. So long as you are in the end compliant with EU regulation, the choice is yours. The DGC Schema supports all these use cases.

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gabywh avatar gabywh commented on June 2, 2024 1

but it would be my interpretation that a 2/2 certificate actually means exactly that: fully vaccinated

Not necessarily - quite a few edge cases here. In any case, two different perspectives here: (i) medical, and (ii) regulatory - as per EU regs: the legal people can set that 2/2 "is equivalent to" fully vaccinated for the purposes of cross border travel. From a medical perspective, the only thing I can conclude from 2/2 is that 2 doses have been administered with a nominal total series dosage of 2, nothing more than that. I would need to do a lot more looking at other medical to make any medical claim about whether this means - from a medical perspective - person is fully vaccinated. This is why e.g. the HL7 model has a separate field called "status" which can be set to e.g. completed. Anyway, out-of-scope here: for our purposes for cross-border travel - 2/2 (or 1/1 etc) is deemed to be equivalent to "fully vaccinated".

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martin-lindstrom avatar martin-lindstrom commented on June 2, 2024

Introduce extra field in vaccination_entry that is an array of dates?

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sondaica avatar sondaica commented on June 2, 2024

How do we fulfill the regulation regarding the other information about the vaccine if they are of different kinds the two doses? It states that the information about the vaccine manufacturer and type should be part of the datasets. So the schema works and fulfills the regulation if you add both doses without schema update.

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jschlyter avatar jschlyter commented on June 2, 2024

Or we can just keep the current schema and allow multiple vaccinations in a single array.

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chris2286266 avatar chris2286266 commented on June 2, 2024

How do we fulfill the regulation regarding the other information about the vaccine if they are of different kinds the two doses? It states that the information about the vaccine manufacturer and type should be part of the datasets. So the schema works and fulfills the regulation if you add both doses without schema update.

Yes, that would be the best solution.
But the only remaining topic is the ID ... (unique, see previous discussions ...)

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PeterEbraert avatar PeterEbraert commented on June 2, 2024

In BE, we are going for a solution in which we will create 2 separate certificate for a person who received two doses.
Each certificate will house ONLY the data of the concerned dose.

However, the second certificate will mention the fact that it is the second dose that was administered.
Seems compliant to both Json and https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2021-0145_EN.html
That would make the management of corrections a lot easier. What do you guys think?

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thinkberg avatar thinkberg commented on June 2, 2024

Actually, in DE we are going for a similar approach. In fact, the doctor administering the second dose should check that there has been a dose administered before and thus certifies the full vaccination. I am not a doctor, nor regulator, but it would be my interpretation that a 2/2 certificate actually means exactly that: fully vaccinated. It only gets complicated if a combination would be forbidden later on.

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thinkberg avatar thinkberg commented on June 2, 2024

I fully agree. However, from a practical point of view, we can assume lazy people.

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