ember build, server about ember-cli

[stefanpenner]

This argument does not convince me. I can see overlap in options, for ones that are consistent between the two, but I prefer to keep them separate top level commands.

ember serve <flags>
ember build <flags>

[joliss]

With serve, we might want a way to also kick off the tests each time the sources are rebuilt. I'm not really convinced by the original proposal either, but we should think about whether and how to work this into the command line UI.

[MajorBreakfast]

:) It's perhaps not the final solution. Rather a start in the right direction

Thoughs behind my proposal were:

• the development server should be independent to file watching
• rebuilding output for node-webkit/phone gap development just in a folder
• special testem test version of the app which it runs through it's own test server

I like the sound of ember serve, ember build but they don't cover all use cases and overlap.

We could design ember build to be similar to what I proposed above and have:

• ember serve as shorthand for ember build --watch --serve
• ember develop as shorthand for ember build --watch --serve --test <-- main command
• ember dist as shorthand for ember build --pack --env production
• ember test as shorthand for ember build --test (--env production)?

And there is also EAK's /tests site. Which we should also think about. It is kind of handy, especially for showcase.

@joliss Thanks for joining the discussion. It's kind of broccoli related :)

[joliss]

Can you elaborate on the node-webkit and phone gap use cases?

[MajorBreakfast]

stefanpenner/ember-app-kit#364 For node-webkit or phone gap development a folder that contains the built app is needed - with rebuilding for convenience. Instead of a server, a directory with a fixed path should be the output.

[stefanpenner]

@MajorBreakfast ya the phonegap node-webkit scenerio is a good one to get right

[MajorBreakfast]

How does the testing command with rebuilding work?
When we used karma in EAK it ran the tests after every rebuild. Unfortunately it also blocked the server while it ran. It was kind of cool, though.

[Globegitter]

@stefanpenner @MajorBreakfast is there anything I could help? Would love to push this forward but just getting errors right now, even with a simple ember server.

[stefanpenner]

Could you open an issue with a detailed report of the errors.

Up to this point this project should be considered a spike, the next push should likely be a solid test suite and fixing existing bugs. This should put us on the path to stability and a beta.

[stefanpenner]

I believe some of these points are addressed, if they are not (and are not already other existing issues) I will reopen.