essentials.silentjoin.vanish about essentials

[Kakifrucht]

I don't have the issue you report, without negating any permissions.
Just set the param to false? Vanishing should be handled by VNP either way.

[zRiaz]

I dont want to set it to false because I use it for the silentjoin and silentquit.
Default as OP you get vanished when logging in if this is enabled. I would like another setting to turn off the vanish on join without having to turn off the silentjoin and silentquit.

I also said I COULD give negative perms but Im usually testing with multiple accounts etc and its just incredibly annoying being vanished everytime I log in.

[Kakifrucht]

You should install VanishNoPacket, as Essentials vanish is not safe and can easily be bypassed client side.

If anything, drtshock should consider just removing anything vanish related from Essentials, but that wouldn't be necessary imo.

[zRiaz]

I feel like you arent paying attention to what I am saying at all.

[drtshock]

I don't want to default the permissions to OP though. Most servers just don't have join/quit messages anyway.

[zRiaz]

Yea I didnt mean that, i ment that you could add a option to disable essentials.silentjoin.vanish instead of having the option to have it enabled with silentjoin & silentquit.
Something like adding this under the already exsisting setting:

.#Allow people to join vanished with essentials.silentjoin.vanish
allow-vanish-join: false

Because I use the silentjoin and silentquit but not the vanish. And its annoying being opped and doing testing etc and randomly be vanished all the time.

[zRiaz]

@vemacs Could this setting please be divided up into two?
I would REALLY like to disable the vanish join thing without having to disable the silent join and quit.

[drtshock]

Just revoke the permission? https://github.com/drtshock/Essentials/blob/2.x/Essentials/src/com/earth2me/essentials/EssentialsPlayerListener.java#L237