Categorising UCD status about ucidy

[gmantele]

I think, the confusion here comes from whether the present or past tense is used. Personally I use the past tense, hence: a deprecedated word is no more valid because of its deprecated status. Though, it was a recommended word, in the last supported version of UCDList-x.y.

I may be wrong. It is true that a deprecated word is an old IVOA recommended world and is grammatically valid and recognised (so I should probably fix this last point). But I am not sure it is still a recommended word....it is actually recommended to not use it anymore.

What makes more sense according to you?

Anyway, I am confused by your interpretation of ! pucd.isAllRecommended(). If you define and use your own UCD words (so, not IVOA official words), they are flagged as not recommended, but that does not mean they are deprecated.

[mbtaylor]

You are right that my pucd.isAllRecommended() is wrong, I was trying to come up with something that would report deprecated words, but doing it badly.

I agree that deprecated words should not be recommended.

I was mostly confused by deprecated words not being recognised. If that gets resolved, then I can identify deprecated as (recognised && !recommended) - do you agree? - and do everything that I want. (In the mean time I'm checking for the string "DEPRECATED" in the error message, which seems to do the trick, so this fix is not urgent for me).

[gmantele]

I can identify deprecated as (recognised && !recommended) - do you agree?

No, sorry :-( For a UCD word officially defined by the IVOA (UCDList-x.y), this condition is enough. However, it is possible to define its own custom UCD words. So, a custom UCD word is recognised but not recommended (by the IVOA). It does not make it necessarily a deprecated word.

Actually, for what you want to achieve, I think you need a new function: something like UCD.containsDeprecated() or UCD.listDeprecated(). Any of these can anyway easily be reproduced as you have the list of UCDWords (cf UCD.iterator()). From this, you can inspect each UCDWord and know if one is deprecated or not (UCDWord.isDeprecated()). If you want, I can add either containsDeprecated() or listDeprecated() (or both).

[gmantele]

In the mean time I'm checking for the string "DEPRECATED" in the error message, which seems to do the trick, so this fix is not urgent for me

This DEPRECATED message comes actually from the detection of a UCDWord.isDeprecated() item in a UCD instance.

[mbtaylor]

Got it. Using UCDWord.isDeprecated() is fine for me, I was looking in the wrong place for this functionality (the UCD instead of the UCDWord). Thank you!

[gmantele]

Ok :)

Having a containsDeprecated() or listDeprecated() in UCD, would it be also interesting?

[mbtaylor]

It would fit in with the other UCD-level methods isAllRecommended, isAllValid etc; but I've written the code to work with the UCDWord-level method now, so I probably won't use them.

[gmantele]

FYI, I just added the followings functions in UCD:

• containsDeprecated()
• countDeprecated()
• getDeprecated()