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traversaro avatar traversaro commented on May 19, 2024 2

Just FYI for anyone interested in ppc64le binaries, at https://conda-forge.org/ we automatically provide ppc64le packages for many robotics simulation related packages, see for example (if you check under platforms, you will see linux-ppc64le):

This packages are obtained either via compilation on Travis (https://blog.travis-ci.com/2019-11-12-multi-cpu-architecture-ibm-power-ibm-z) or cross-compilation and tests run on QEMU in Azure/amd64.

Note that this packaging effort is complementary to any official binary provided upstream as requested in this issue, but I tought it was relevant to mention this here as the plan is to package mujoco in conda-forge as soon as the source code is available, and in that case (unless the build system is strange in someway, i.e. not a common autotools/meson/cmake one) we could get ppc64le binaries with little effort.

/fyi @Tobias-Fischer @wolfv

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saran-t avatar saran-t commented on May 19, 2024 1

In principle we can cross-compile MuJoCo since the code is portable C, but we won't be able to properly test that it works since we don't have the hardware. (QEMU might be a viable option if there's a good reason for us to go down that route)

Can you tell us a bit more about your intended use case?

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rodrigodelazcano avatar rodrigodelazcano commented on May 19, 2024

In principle we can cross-compile MuJoCo since the code is portable C, but we won't be able to properly test that it works since we don't have the hardware. (QEMU might be a viable option if there's a good reason for us to go down that route)

Can you tell us a bit more about your intended use case?

Hi Saran, thank you for your prompt response. I'm trying to train an RL application in a distributed system. For that I want to deploy at once the same Mujoco simulation in multiple nodes of an HPC . The problem is that the HPC nodes have IBM POWER9 cpu's with ppc64le architecture. I'm not very familiar with cross-compilation, but having an initial make file that works on QEMU or Travis as suggested by @traversaro would be of great help.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently I can't compile-test Mujoco myself since it is a pre-built library right?

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rodrigodelazcano avatar rodrigodelazcano commented on May 19, 2024

Note that this packaging effort is complementary to any official binary provided upstream as requested in this issue, but I tought it was relevant to mention this here as the plan is to package mujoco in conda-forge as soon as the source code is available, and in that case (unless the build system is strange in someway, i.e. not a common autotools/meson/cmake one) we could get ppc64le binaries with little effort.

This sounds great, thank you for the info. I might be using one of these packages in the mean time. However, I'm looking forward to also have the Mujoco package available when open-source development is completed.

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saran-t avatar saran-t commented on May 19, 2024

@rodrigodelazcano correct, until we open source MuJoCo any additional platform will require us to set up new build on our side. I'll look into ppc64le and if it's not a great deal of extra work we can make it part of our CI.

After open sourcing I'd be happy to have the ppc64le build be owned and maintained by someone else though :)

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saran-t avatar saran-t commented on May 19, 2024

@rodrigodelazcano Do you need to be able to render on the PPC machine? Is it sufficient if we provide the "no_gl" binary for this platform?

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rodrigodelazcano avatar rodrigodelazcano commented on May 19, 2024

@rodrigodelazcano Do you need to be able to render on the PPC machine? Is it sufficient if we provide the "no_gl" binary for this platform?

@saran-t yes, no need to have rendering feature. Thanks!

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saran-t avatar saran-t commented on May 19, 2024

ppc64le build is now available as part of our 2.1.1 release, with and without rendering support. Basic tests passed on qemu (ppc64-softmmu).

We can't offer any support for this, though.

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