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benbjohnson avatar benbjohnson commented on August 26, 2024

@ongardie Should a server wait until receiving an AppendEntries RPC (to receive the commitIndex) from the current leader before applying commands in the log? Or should the committed index be saved to disk?

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ongardie avatar ongardie commented on August 26, 2024

To make sure everyone's clear, persisting commitIndex isn't needed for safety, since a new leader can always figure this out again with help from a quorum, and then tells everyone else through AppendEntries RPCs. I assume the question is when/whether it's beneficial to persist the commitIndex to disk. You can certainly do it, and as xiangli points out, you can do so asynchronously or periodically. But here are a couple reasons why you may not want to:

  • It's extra code.
  • If you're booting a server, hopefully it's in the minority of your cluster that's not needed for availability.
  • If you're booting a server, it's probably already experienced significant downtime. If you delay applying log commands even by a few minutes, it wouldn't necessarily add significantly more downtime.
  • If you need to read the log from a magnetic disk, you're lucky if you can get 100MB/s. Applying the commands should be much faster (a few hundred MB/s probably), so Amdahl's law says you can't expect much gain by overlapping the two. A good SSD might change this, though.

So I guess the most super-optimized implementations would do this, but I probably wouldn't bother.

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benbjohnson avatar benbjohnson commented on August 26, 2024

@ongardie I understand that it's not needed for safety. I guess my biggest concern was if the entire cluster goes down and then reboots then every node is waiting for an AE. I suppose it could wait for an election timeout before trying to replay the log. That way you wouldn't get delayed by replaying first if it's not needed.

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xiang90 avatar xiang90 commented on August 26, 2024

fixed.

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