Can add the text editors, programming environments etc. about developer-roadmap

[kamranahmedse]

Thank you for opening the issue. While I agree with that, we don't want to convolute the roadmap by mentioning everything out there. Regarding the IDE, I don't think we should add the recommendations as a part of roadmap.

However, I will find a place for that in textual form somewhere outside the roadmap. Thank you 🙏

[VictorAvelar]

@redemptgtx I can jump into this too.

[damengilland]

Learning a powerful text editor should be at the top in the "for all paths" section.

I think start with Sublime or Atom. Vim... seems a bit more complicated to start with. Notepad++ is old and busted. I'd stick with just Sublime or Atom. (=

• Sublime Text: The text editor you'll fall in love with || http://www.sublimetext.com/

• Atom || https://atom.io/

• Visual Studio Code - Code Editing. Redefined || https://code.visualstudio.com/ (from suggestion)

[luchillo17]

Leaving aside the fact that you leave VSCode out, which should be at the same level that the 2 mentioned.

Should a text editor really be on the roadmap to any developer? you can program with virtually any program that outputs text files with the right extension, or none at all with the terminal and vi or nano.

Using text editors to do the job is just fanciness, i see the roadmap like a map of the related technologies that should be or are recommended to known to perform well or even master such area or role, and a text editor doesn't fit in my criteria.

Take as example the terminal vs an editor, you can ignore the editor but never the terminal, you use the terminal for virtually all, downloading and installing dependencies, running task and build pipelines, connect to servers, it can tell you the hour or destroy the pc with a misplaced rm -rf / (for the love of god don't try such command at home, or anywhere), the terminal is the greatest weapon in a developer arsenal, and as any weapon if you don't respect it you could end up shooting your own foot.

But an editor is just an editor, fancy, cute, and helpful, but nothing more (well some of them can run tasks by themselves directly or through their own integrated terminal), so adding them to the roadmap is just cluttering the map with unnecessary information.

Though that's just my opinion, what do you guys think?

[damengilland]

@luchillo17 You aren't wrong... but I think knowing a cute fancy text editor helps people work faster. I'd have a hard time taking someone seriously as a dev if they didn't have mastery of some sort of editor or IDE... I'd cringe if I hired a contract dev and he wasn't using some sort of editor... paying him hourly to do work... I want him to be efficient.

But... you aren't wrong... an editor isn't needed to write code.

[luchillo17]

@damengilland Yep, tough i've read of people that only uses vi because they feel slow with the editors.

I'm sorry if i was a bit rough, but actually putting the editors in, would make this look a bit less like a roadmap, and more like a pensum, like a plan of things you could learn, and editors would be in the optional subjects section, don't you think?

[damengilland]

That works, Optional... Learn them for your own sanity, and also to help convince others you are a real developer.

[luchillo17]

Agree, maybe put it on top but not united by the arrow, but stating as a recommendation or something like that?

[damengilland]

• Importance Of Good Text Editors And Ide For Writing Code | Yash Ballani || https://yashballani.com/blog/importance-of-good-text-editors-and-ide-for-writing-code