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GerhardRaven avatar GerhardRaven commented on June 16, 2024

The BaBar track fit flipped 'on demand' between covariance and weights -- as for measurement nodes one need weights, but (IIRC!) transport typically wants covariances... And I think I discussed this with Wouter (he is the right person to ask!) but I think the conclusion was that either it didn't match the LHCb coding convention of strict separation between 'data' and 'algorithms' or it didn't gain us enough to bother... But regardless of that, we should reconsider this as an option, as maybe things have changed and the balance has shifted.

As for the 2nd point, one class of speedups we have implemented in a few hot spots is to not compute with more accuracy than needed (eg. Manuel's improvement on the T0 walk correction, which doesn't need to be known with 53 bits (16 digits) of precision, when the TDC that it corrects has only 8 bits in the first place). This should (IMHO) be propagated 'throughout' the code. There is precious little information on how accurate individual bits of code have to be. And in many cases, we just spend time computing 'random digits' beyond the required accuracy -- I've suggested a few times that we should sometimes explicitly truncate our precision to make things more reproducible. Conversely, I'd also like to know which parts of the code are 'borderline' on precision. I can imagine that there are algorithms where the precision isn't good enough. So in a perfect world, I'd like each bit of reconstruction code come with a specification on how accurate it should be, but I doubt we'll ever get to that stage. But it is something to strive for.

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petitcactusorange avatar petitcactusorange commented on June 16, 2024

Regarding the first point, we put Pierre in contact with Wouter so hopefully there are exchanging valuable information.

Regarding the second point : "There is precious little information on how accurate individual bits of code have to be. " I agree, I failed miserably to find this information when Pierre asked me questions about this. Maybe we can be optimistic and decide from now on "specification on how accurate it should be" shall be quoted together with the efficiencies, ghost rate etc. ? This is probably algorithm dependent but maybe @manuelschiller could teach us how to work this out ?

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petitcactusorange avatar petitcactusorange commented on June 16, 2024

@GerhardRaven ps : what does it mean (IIRC!) ?

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GerhardRaven avatar GerhardRaven commented on June 16, 2024

IIRC = If I Remenber Correctly

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petitcactusorange avatar petitcactusorange commented on June 16, 2024

Chatted with @manuelschiller, it seems tough to have a talk about code accuracy, since this is too algorithm dependent. We stick to the talk from Pierre.

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