Filename extension for Streem programs about streem

[agmcleod]

.st

[renanoronfle]

.st or .strm

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM, matz [email protected] wrote:

Which do you think is the best? .st .str .stm .strm or .streem?

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[xuzhezhaozhao]

.st

[matz]

I am afraid .st is used for Smalltalk sometimes.

[markburns]

.streem

Reasoning:

File extension limitations are a relic of the past and a good language or
library can assume the extension.
Reducing typing or byte storage doesn't make as much sense today, and good
shells will autocomplete filenames.

Would be interested in hearing why for 2/3/4 letter extensions

On Mon Dec 15 2014 at 4:36:33 PM matz [email protected] wrote:

I am afraid .st is used for Smalltalk sometimes.

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[caseycole589]

.streem I agree file limitations are a relic and .str would make me think of a abbreviation for string.

[matz]

@markburns because we are so lazy to type 6 letters every time, even with completion.

[acangiano]

I like .stm.

[alexispurslane]

I like .stm also.

[markburns]

Lazy is good, but with auto-completion I don't see that you'd be likely to
get clashes. Unless some other files extension related to streem files are
cruelly chosen to be strmo or something.

An argument against would be that people don't like/use autocompletion in
their shells. But they are crazy people not lazy people. :)

On Mon Dec 15 2014 at 5:30:46 PM Antonio Cangiano [email protected]
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I like .stm.

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[henriquemoody]

Have you guys seem this?

• http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/st
• http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/stm
• http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/str
• http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/streem
• http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/strm

👍 for *.streem

[tjb]

I was for *.stm but after @henriquemoody's post I would agree with him on going for *.streem

[ekg]

+1 for .streem as well. Thanks @henriquemoody for demonstrating that there are already clashes for the shorter ones. I don't see any advantage to a short name, given that almost everyone uses autocompletion and touch typing.

[reddyonrails]

i like *.str

[fatboy1]

I like *.stm

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From: Reddy [email protected]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:35 PM
To: matz/streem
Subject: Re: [streem] Filename extension for Streem programs (#24)

i like *.str

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[internetsadboy]

*.stm 👍

@markburns raises interesting points though

[WitzHsiao]

*.steem is good

[practicalswift]

👍 for .streem

Reasoning:

• A .streem extension won't surprise anyone.
• A .streem extension won't collide with an existing extension.
• No technical reasons to keep the extension length within the three letter limit of 1990 DOS (FILENAME.EXT) – hence no reason for an abbreviation :-)

[nickmccurdy]

While I like that .streem doesn't clash with anything, .st is short and sweet in my opinion, and it seems like the existing file format for .st is not very common. I doubt Streem users would get their scripts confused with Atari disk images. Besides, there is already ambiguity for some popular extensions, including .rb.

I vote for .st and .streem. I don't like some of the other longer extensions because at that point you might as well just add the two e's in, since we don't need to be limited to two characters.

[matz]

I was almost taking .stm but I've heard Vim consider .stm as HTML files. So I gave up '.stm`.

[maurobaraldi]

Well, I know this is not one of the proposals, but what if use just one "e" and put .strem?

[tbodt]

@maurobaraldi I think "strem" sounds too much like "phlegm".

[nickmccurdy]

.stm is one of the extensions for HTML with server side includes. It seems like .shtml is used more frequently for that, though.

[tbodt]

Since there is no need for DOS to be able to read the files, how about .|? (That's a pipe.)

[haiyuofow]

I like .stm ,also

[qinshulei]

.st or .streem

[nickmccurdy]

@tbodt I think that would be too confusing for users and (possibly) editors.

[reeze]

I like *.stm, *.stream is too long to type

On 16 December 2014 at 10:11, Nicolas McCurdy [email protected]
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@tbodt https://github.com/tbodt I think that would be too confusing for
users and (possibly) editors.

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[Suker-Xu]

.st or .streem

[kfyodor]

I like .streem. No one has issues with .scala, for example.

[laoar]

what about .sm ?

2014-12-16 11:14 GMT+08:00 Theodore Konukhov [email protected]:

I like .streem. No one has issues with .scala, for example.

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[febwindy]

what about .stem?

[pvwoods]

The ideal format should probably optimize for two main goals:

• Eliminate or reduce collisions with other file formats using the same extension
• Be as succinct as possible.

Given that, .strm would be my vote for the most ideal candidate. (the only file format collision I could find was from XBMC)

[ramj9]

.st Simple, short and doesn't clash with anything currently.

[jo-sm]

I feel like .streem would be too long to type out even with autocomplete, and even 4 characters would be annoying to type on a regular basis (not everyone can use autocomplete in their shell depending on the environment) if this would be used widely. Scripting languages also tend to use short extensions like .sh, .rb, .py. I would favor a shorter one, such as .st, but since .st could conflict with smalltalk, maybe .str. It's like a lot of the languages that shorten their first few letters (python -> .py, shell -> .sh) and would be recognizable.

[suzukaze]

I like .stm.

[boie0025]

👍 .streem

[mattn]

I'm already using *.streem.
https://github.com/mattn/streeem/tree/master/_example

Sorry my noise.

[defp]

stm 👍

[karmaQ]

👍 .st

[ferdinandrosario]

.stm 👍

[euvl]

.streem or .sm

[i5ting]

.streem or .sm

[tokuhirom]

.stm

[Lain-]

+1 for .streem

[kathgironpe]

.st

[heliac2000]

What about .ms(Matz' Streem) or .mst(Matz' STreem)?

[JiechengZhao]

.st +1

[mattn]

+1 to .str (Similar To Ruby)

[takahashim]

.eem
http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/eem

[terlar]

Not sure if it is a good idea, but could get creative and if you think about the shape of a stream, simply .~.

On the less exotic side, I would go with .streem

[mhinz]

I'd go for .streem to avoid file extension clashes and it's still short enough. It's not as if you type file extensions all day.

I like .streem. No one has issues with .scala, for example.

👍

[hirohisa]

.stm or .strm

[whoisjake]

.stmx ?
.stms ?

Both say to me stream script or stream executable

[alexispurslane]

👍 @whoisjake for .stmx

[Chadwick]

+1 .streem regardless of length. It's clear, no doubt as to what you're looking at.

[dfedde]

@terlar I like .~

but .streem seams more practical

[tbodt]

It's very hard to see what people think when the votes are all over the place. I went through all the comments and tabulated the results. Here's everything with more than one vote:

Extension	Votes	Conflicts	Credit
.streem	25		@matz
.stm	12	HTML with SSIs	@matz
.st	11	Smalltalk	@matz
.strm	4	XBMC	@matz
.str	3		@matz
.stmx	2		@whoisjake
.~	2		@terlar

So far, the winner is .streem. But that may change. I'll try and update this when more votes come in.

[henriquemoody]

@tbodt, do you mind to put the amount of "votes" in this table too?

[tbodt]

@henriquemoody I did.

[henriquemoody]

Awesome, @tbodt! Thanks for that, I think this may help @matz in the final decision.

[jacwah]

.~ is not a good idea since vim is using ~ as a suffix for backups. It's also not clear what it means and possibly confusing (it's not common to see non alphanumerical extensions).

[technohippy]

.ee

[tbodt]

@technohippy Bears no resemblance whatsoever to Streem. Except that it has 2 e's.

[jo-sm]

.matz ? 😄

[s-aida]

I think .ree sounds like not so awful, although I'm not so serious either.

[nickmccurdy]

@jacwah Agreed, .~ could cause a lot of issues with vim and linux users.

[mySingleLive]

.streem just like .java, .groovy ...
or
.sm

[utkarshkukreti]

+1 for .streem

[ThomasPedersen]

I'd prefer .streem, as .st and .stm is conflicted

[wyscjm]

+1 for .strm

[yemster]

+1 for .streem

On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 9:21:38 AM ww [email protected] wrote:

+1 for .strm

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[ko1]

.|

[inotepad]

+1 for .streem

[matz]

I pick .strm. But it's merely a convention. If we see any problem, then we can choose .streem or whatever.