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scovetta avatar scovetta commented on May 23, 2024 2

At least we're not talking about the other hard problem, cache invalidation and off-by-one errors. :-)

I'm fine with changing the docs/text to call it "semantically equivalent build" or similar based on the context, or if we can find a better name that doesn't encroach reproducible-builds, I'd probably be fine with that too.

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gfs avatar gfs commented on May 23, 2024

@scovetta thoughts on this?

"Semantically equivalent" seems accurate to describe the methodology/depth of analysis to me, but so does our current "semantically reproducible".

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gfs avatar gfs commented on May 23, 2024

@david-a-wheeler

Thanks again for your detailed feedback.

I think that were then okay with "semantically equivalent" in the documentation, unless we can think up something better in the next few days before I take the time to update the docs.

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gfs avatar gfs commented on May 23, 2024

@david-a-wheeler I opened #429 to update this in the readme and program strings, and ahve also updated the wiki to use "semantic equivalency".

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david-a-wheeler avatar david-a-wheeler commented on May 23, 2024

Thanks so much! I think "semantically equivalent" is great; it's clearly distinct and I think it gives the sense of what's intended.

I'll post to the reproducible-builds mailing list, I think they'll be pleased.

At a future point it would be cool if the tool could report "semantically equivalent" when that is true, and also indicate "reproducible build' (bit-for-bit) when it can find a way to reproduce it exactly. I should probably file that as a separate issue, because that probably is more than just a doc change :-).

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gfs avatar gfs commented on May 23, 2024

Thanks so much! I think "semantically equivalent" is great; it's clearly distinct and I think it gives the sense of what's intended.

No problem. Thanks for the suggestion. I think this makes it very clear.

I'll post to the reproducible-builds mailing list, I think they'll be pleased.

🎉

At a future point it would be cool if the tool could report "semantically equivalent" when that is true, and also indicate "reproducible build' (bit-for-bit) when it can find a way to reproduce it exactly. I should probably file that as a separate issue, because that probably is more than just a doc change :-).

I think that would be a great ability to have - oss reproducible has extensibility via the strategies, I think that would be cool to have checking for bit for bit "reproducible build" be a strategy. I do agree though that that's a larger ask than this update so a fresh issue to track it would be best. If you have any recommendations for what we may be able to leverage to avoid building that strategy from scratch that would also be great to hear.

Thanks
Gabe

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