No name? about zubr

[nkkollaw]

@radmen , since you were saying we mentioned phpsadness, how about "Happy"?

\Happy\str_pos('hello', 'hell');

I like it a lot right now (not sure if I'll still like it in a hour or day).

[ddziaduch]

good idea

[radmen]

Although the namespace should IMHO be called PHP for clarity and readability

There may be a problem with that. On Internals there was a discussion about putting core functions to php NS. End conclusion is that there won't be any php global ns, however some extensions might get it (eg php\ast).

Maybe we should follow this convention and ns functions under something like: php\sane?

[nkkollaw]

There may be a problem with that. On Internals there was a discussion about putting core functions to php NS. End conclusion is that there won't be any php global ns, however some extensions might get it (eg php\ast).

Good catch. From what I understand they're postponing the issue to PHP 8, though.

Maybe we should follow this convention and ns functions under something like: php\sane?

That's not bad at all. I also wouldn't hate something like PHPX, like \PHPX\str_pos() of course we could call it whatever we want, then one can use the namespace as \PHP or whatever (we could make calling it PHP or whatever else a best practice).

As for "sane", it makes sense but it's somewhat offensive to PHP and PHP devs? Like PHP itself is insane... I would probably personally like something where "wrapper" was the keyword, better.

[radmen]

As for "sane", it makes sense but it's somewhat offensive to PHP and PHP devs? Like PHP itself is insane...

Ah, that's true ;)

You were relating in README to phpsadness - maybe the name should be somehow related to it (eg php\medicine) - cure for your PHPSadness :D

[nkkollaw]

You were relating in README to phpsadness - maybe the name should be somehow related to it (eg php\medicine) - cure for your PHPSadness :D

Haha, that's not bad at all. That would mean that PHP devs are sick people at that point, though :D

[radmen]

That would mean that PHP devs are sick people at that point, though :D

I think that our community has sense of humor ;)

Regarding naming - I've recently worked on https://github.com/baethon/phln/ and one thing I can say is that it would be good that the namespace is not too long. If it will be too long there will be temptation to import functions, which will lead to bigger mess :)

I'd suggest using medicine (or smth similar) as a main namespace (instead php). So that all functions are like medicine\array_search().

[nkkollaw]

I'd suggest using medicine (or smth similar) as a main namespace (instead php). So that all functions are like medicine\array_search().

Sure, let's think about it, though. Many people dismiss projects just for the name.

How about:

• Pill (means "medicine")
• Lek ("medicine" in Polish, but doesn't make a lot of sense in this case)

I'll think of more names. I'm not good at finding names but I'm good at having the impression that one is not the right one :-)

Also it should "look good" when typed, like:

\Pill\str_pos($wha, $ye);
\Lek\str_pos($wha, $ye);

EDIT: 2 good ones (IMHO):
phew - Used to express relief, pron. like "few"
phat - Cool, pretty hot, pron. like "fat"

I like Pill, Phat (althought there's already https://github.com/ryanve/phat), and Phew (although there's already https://github.com/vaibhavpandeyvpz/phew).

[radmen]

Happy is kind of nice :) Pill is also good (even better). I'm leaving this to you :)

[nkkollaw]

No love for Phew..?

[radmen]

No love for Phew..?

Lots :) However, this namespace is taken by another package. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to use it in a different one.

[nkkollaw]

(last message and then I'm done for today)

Zubr.

This is my list in order of preference:

\Zubr\str_pos('Hello', 'What');
\Phew\str_pos('Hello', 'What');
\Happy\str_pos('Hello', 'What');
\Pill\str_pos('Hello', 'What');

I think we should go with Phew, because it kinds of remind of "PHP", is short, has meaning. If not, I vote for Zubr because everyone is in Poland, it's short, looks good in monospaced font, and the name doesn't matter unless it's PHPhiphippo.

[radmen]

Zubr like the polish vodka? I like it ^^

[nkkollaw]

Yes, Żubr like the beer or animal :-)

[nkkollaw]

Going with Zubr.

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