Project maintenance status? about orgzly-android

[idlip]

I know this app is still useful and has intuitive modern UI.

I guess nobody has talked about it, but now, We have official emacs app for android.
For non-emacs user who only depended on orgzly as the powerhouse, this might not be the good news.

You can get emacs from fdroid (does not support gnutls, which means you cannot use eww or add melpa...), but there is sourceforge where they release apk for every commit and has full support to gnutls (and maybe others)

I recommend you guys to give it a try, there is a dedicated section for Android in info-emacs-manual for you to read.

I reckon, it can be almost (if not, 100%) THE org-mode reader with full experience.

Coming to the main aspect, org-agenda, it can display as usual, I have not yet figured if it can send notifications for tasks scheduled (need to explore a bit more)

Give it a go, and spread the word: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid

[DanielKonopka]

Maybe it would be wise to transfer maintenance to somebody else? Just a hint. The app is so great it would be a blasphemy to leave it like this.

[markamaze]

I agree it would be a shame if this project dies. I've used it for years and explored the code as I've been learning. I've got an idea for addressing an issue but if pr's aren't going anywhere I won't bother. Totally understandable if @nevenz needs a break, but perhaps other experienced contributors could have access to keep development going. I'd love to start using it for some contributor credit.

[amberin]

There is now a fork: #1037 (comment)

[YesNoMaybeItDepends]

Would it possible to fork the whole project and get a group of new maintainers together to work on it?

The license certainly allows it, just needs someone to take the initiative and to spread the word, both to get a group of maintainers and to share the fork with the public.

Should probably reach out to @nevenz first though, don't know if anyone else already tried but I'll see if I can get in contact with him.

[Itrekr]

@anotherboringuser Whilst this is true, active users will find the app if we get it on the F-droid store alongside the original one. Maybe we give it a new name or call it Orgzly Revived or something.

[alokehpdev]

Yeah someone else maintaining it would be awesome since there are a lot of forks that aren't merged. If someone could take it up, this app could be so much valuable.

[Itrekr]

I agree it would be a shame if this project dies. I've used it for years and explored the code as I've been learning. I've got an idea for addressing an issue but if pr's aren't going anywhere I won't bother. Totally understandable if @nevenz needs a break, but perhaps other experienced contributors could have access to keep development going. I'd love to start using it for some contributor credit.

Would it possible to fork the whole project and get a group of new maintainers together to work on it?

[karlicoss]

@anotherboringuser yeah, I tried reaching few weeks ago via that email, no response :(

[markamaze]

@Itrekr I believe it is at least worth putting a group of maintainers together and making an attempt.

I'd be willing to commit to it, whether forked or access is granted to orgzly. Have been studying and practicing software development for a while and want hands on experience. Couldn't lead anything but can take tasks and work on them with minimal guidance. Whatever knowledge I'm missing I'll put in the effort to gain it.

Any others willing? Perhaps we can gather a list of willing people here.

[Itrekr]

Yeah, the project is already hosted in an organization, so if a few people step up he could add them to it so it lives on in the original repo. With a fork we loose all issues and stuff.

That would be best, but we don't know if the project is abandoned or not.

[Itrekr]

Would it possible to fork the whole project and get a group of new maintainers together to work on it?

Isn't that the point of open source? It's been years and yet nobody has really bitten the bullet to actually do that yet.

I know. It was more of a: "Do we have the people to pull this of?" Not a: "Are we allowed to do this?"

[alensiljak]

I'd be interested in participating and contributing here and there, depending on the time available.

[alensiljak]

@Itrekr Yes, in this case maybe "Orgzly Reboot"? (like https://github.com/keepassx → https://github.com/keepassxreboot)

Let's continue that discussion at orgzly-revived/orgzly-android-revived#8

[Itrekr]

If anyone has any well working alternative please let me know because I am not sure if this project is still maintained.

[xeruf]

Yeah, the project is already hosted in an organization, so if a few people step up he could add them to it so it lives on in the original repo. With a fork we loose all issues and stuff.

[alensiljak]

Would it possible to fork the whole project and get a group of new maintainers together to work on it?

Isn't that the point of open source? It's been years and yet nobody has really bitten the bullet to actually do that yet.

[amberin]

@Itrekr I believe it is at least worth putting a group of maintainers together and making an attempt.

@YesNoMaybeItDepends Did you ever manage to reach @nevenz?

[anotherboringuser]

Has anyone tried reaching out to @nevenz via the [email protected] email adress?
The problem with just forking the project is that afaik there’s no way to contact or push updates to the more than 100.000 people who downloaded the app in the Playstore.
I’m really worried about this project dying but there’s also little I can contribute to it.

[erikmd]

@Itrekr Yes, in this case maybe "Orgzly Reboot"? (like https://github.com/keepassx → https://github.com/keepassxreboot)