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ids1024 avatar ids1024 commented on July 29, 2024 5

It sounds like that's the direction we're planning on taking anyway, so I'm happy.

Indeed. Jeremy just implemented that in cosmic/desktop-widget, so it will be customizable unless we want to remove the option for some reason:

Screenshot from 2021-04-14 12-49-24

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jackpot51 avatar jackpot51 commented on July 29, 2024 4

Implemented in 68bf66b. I agree this will need some testing. We plan to have the super key be configurable, to support launching either the launcher, the workspaces overview, or the applications overview

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bluzky avatar bluzky commented on July 29, 2024 3

It sounds like that's the direction we're planning on taking anyway, so I'm happy.

Indeed. Jeremy just implemented that in cosmic/desktop-widget, so it will be customizable unless we want to remove the option for some reason:
Screenshot from 2021-04-14 12-49-24

Hey @ids1024 How do I get to this setting on Pop OS? I don't see this in the shortcuts area. I'd really like to go back to Super opening Launcher instead of Workspaces.

You can find it in Desktop settings
Screenshot from 2021-10-19 11-25-10

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leviport avatar leviport commented on July 29, 2024 2

I certainly wouldn't suggest making Super -> Workspaces default, but I do still like the idea of customizeable Super key behavior. It sounds like that's the direction we're planning on taking anyway, so I'm happy.

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sansubr avatar sansubr commented on July 29, 2024 1

It sounds like that's the direction we're planning on taking anyway, so I'm happy.

Indeed. Jeremy just implemented that in cosmic/desktop-widget, so it will be customizable unless we want to remove the option for some reason:

Screenshot from 2021-04-14 12-49-24

Hey @ids1024 How do I get to this setting on Pop OS? I don't see this in the shortcuts area. I'd really like to go back to Super opening Launcher instead of Workspaces.

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alperyilmaz avatar alperyilmaz commented on July 29, 2024 1

Hi. It's good that there's GUI for changing the settings. However, as you see in the menu, Applications and Workspaces are separate. In older version, Pop!_21.04, I was pressing the Super key and I was having both Workspaces and Application in one screen. That was pretty convenient. With one key press I can either search for an app by start typing or click
Now, I press Super key for Workspaces and press Super+A for applications. I wish they were not separated.

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Theluga avatar Theluga commented on July 29, 2024 1

Hello, I'm very new to the linux world. But I would like ask if it's possible to set super key to do nothing too.

I would like to set this key to another shortcut because I get the dash + arcmenu being called at the same time.

I just want to set it to null if it's possible, thank you very much.

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senntore avatar senntore commented on July 29, 2024 1

Would anyone know a way of implementing this for myself??

@smallvalthoss I think you want this(pop-os/cosmic-dock#11 (comment)), which can be easily achieved.

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leviport avatar leviport commented on July 29, 2024

Does the launcher add much for mouse-focused users? I think they'd rather see the workspace view when they hit Super so they can change workspaces without having to use Ctrl+Super+{Up/L, Down/K}. Those are two-hand hotkeys on many/most keyboards, which means moving the mouse hand to the keyboard, and then back. I know remapping Super is no small task, but it might be worth investigating whether it's possible.

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MaCroX95 avatar MaCroX95 commented on July 29, 2024

Does the launcher add much for mouse-focused users? I think they'd rather see the workspace view when they hit Super so they can change workspaces without having to use Ctrl+Super+{Up/L, Down/K}. Those are two-hand hotkeys on many/most keyboards, which means moving the mouse hand to the keyboard, and then back. I know remapping Super is no small task, but it might be worth investigating whether it's possible.

I absolutely agree with leviport here. I appreciate the launcher and everything it does for keyboard users, but changing the core workflow like that is certainly going to impact us who mostly use super + workspaces for managing our apps and use the desktop in more traditional way (without tiling).

I suggest having both options availible, one for keyboard-centric and one for mouse-centric traditional desktop use-case.

I hope that you guys will consider it.

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WatchMkr avatar WatchMkr commented on July 29, 2024

@leviport User testing and surveys have shown that hitting Super and typing an application name is the most common way to launch apps hence the reasoning to set Super to the Launcher by default for testing. We also want to strongly encourage the more efficient method of the launcher over alt/super+tab for switching apps. Super tab isn't good UX but it's been around a long time and so it's a hard behavior to change.

Launching apps does not appear to be strictly mouse vs keyboard user behavior. Nonetheless, if the mouse-driven is preferred, the default on the Super key matters less in that the mouse would be expected to be used for opening favorite apps in the dock, or Applications or Workspaces with the icons or buttons.

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WatchMkr avatar WatchMkr commented on July 29, 2024

I should add, I'm not sure workspace use is as common as we think. I've been in a few user testing sessions where the the user never had a need for workspaces. It was surprising so we hadn't thought to isolate "do you use workspaces - yes/no" to learn the actual adoption.

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alperyilmaz avatar alperyilmaz commented on July 29, 2024

Hi, is possible to change this setting after the installation? I dont remember what I chose during installation but I want to see the Workspaces when I press Super key, now I access Applications. I didn't see Super key alone to be modified in Keyboard shortcuts menu. Is there dconf way or gsettings way to change the Super key?

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alperyilmaz avatar alperyilmaz commented on July 29, 2024

I just found out.

Run dconf-editor, go to /org/gnome/shell/extensions/pop-cosmic/overlay-key-action and select 'WORKSPACES'

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Evity avatar Evity commented on July 29, 2024

It sounds like that's the direction we're planning on taking anyway, so I'm happy.

Indeed. Jeremy just implemented that in cosmic/desktop-widget, so it will be customizable unless we want to remove the option for some reason:
Screenshot from 2021-04-14 12-49-24

Hey @ids1024 How do I get to this setting on Pop OS? I don't see this in the shortcuts area. I'd really like to go back to Super opening Launcher instead of Workspaces.

It sounds like that's the direction we're planning on taking anyway, so I'm happy.

Indeed. Jeremy just implemented that in cosmic/desktop-widget, so it will be customizable unless we want to remove the option for some reason:
Screenshot from 2021-04-14 12-49-24

Hey @ids1024 How do I get to this setting on Pop OS? I don't see this in the shortcuts area. I'd really like to go back to Super opening Launcher instead of Workspaces.

I used to have this panel in settings (Pop!_21.04) but it corrupted since the reinstallation of pop-desktop, now it only provides a wallpaper option and the desktop panel vanished with its content which is not configurable in tweak-tools. I managed to configure the settings missing by installing Gnome extensions and dconf-editor (the resolution given by @alperyilmaz above), but I still can't find ways to get it back, hope this info helps.

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smallvalthoss avatar smallvalthoss commented on July 29, 2024

I've been wondering for a little while if doing super + # would be good for launching applications. Where # is the position of the app you want to launch in your dock. Therefore, you can just customize the dock order of apps you use most. Then super + 1 would open your browser, 2 would open say vscode. etc..

Would anyone know a way of implementing this for myself??

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smallvalthoss avatar smallvalthoss commented on July 29, 2024

Would anyone know a way of implementing this for myself??

@smallvalthoss I think you want this(pop-os/cosmic-dock#11 (comment)), which can be easily achieved.

Thank you! That helped :)

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