footer-memberlist - mono about owasp-layout

[scorchingoyster]

I can give this a try and show you some examples.

Part of the challenge is that companies very often do not specify how the grey scale version of their logo might look like, or if they specify anything at all (and occasionally they would reach out to the site owner for getting it wrong, if it's a particularly big brand or the company has a highly conscious branding team).

The other aspect of this is that there are quite a variety of logo styles that I have seen for the members, most of which are flat-colored and should play nicely with that change, but it should be expected that some others would look a little off when given equal treatment.

[mikemccamon]

Agreed it can be an issue. In the past if a company complained about theirs, I just asked for a new version and 99% of the time that works.

[scorchingoyster]

so I looked into it a bit, it seems like the best way to achieve this for the time being is to set aside two collections of logo images, grey scale for the list and color for the spotlight, because the CSS filter for non-SVG images has very limited support at the moment.

the other option is that we could consider using SVGs because it has almost universal image filter support, but about 30% of the logo files I found originally didn't come in SVG format (about half a dozen them I couldn't even find a good quality logo easily which I had to tweak it afterward), so that would mean I have to redraw ~20 of them for the time being as well as requiring this specific format in the future

let me know what you think—if we do plan to go with the former, I can just batch convert the existing set with a grey scale config... or, frankly, for the sake of ease of long-term management on your side, it might make sense to just stick with the color option.

[mikemccamon]

We normally ask company’s for their logos - we can ask for an SVG format in the future if that helps. Mike McCamon | m: +1.913.940.2737 | Sent from iPhone

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On Jul 13, 2019, at 6:54 PM, Scorching Oyster ***@***.***> wrote: so I looked into it a bit, it seems like the best way to achieve this for the time being is to set aside two collections of logo images, grey scale for the list and color for the spotlight, because the CSS filter for non-SVG images has very limited support at the moment. (the other option is that we could consider using SVGs because it has almost universal image filter support, but about 30% of the logo files I found originally didn't come in SVG format, so that would mean I have to redraw ~20 of them for the time being as well as requiring this specific format in the future) let me know what you think—if we do plan to go with the former, I can just batch convert the existing set with a grey scale config. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.

[scorchingoyster]

the reason why I brought that up is because that I estimate it will take about 9-10 hours of time (mainly has to do with obscure logo fonts) to manually trace the ones without SVG format available online. I will be happy to do either, but I also know that you are concerned about time use, that's why I wanted to check with you first.

[mikemccamon]

Oh no, don’t spend your valuable time on graphics; focus on code, css, and logic! Mike McCamon | m: +1.913.940.2737 | Sent from iPhone

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On Jul 13, 2019, at 8:38 PM, Scorching Oyster ***@***.***> wrote: the reason why I brought that up is because that I estimate it will take about 9-10 hours of time (mainly has to do with obscure logo fonts) to manually trace the ones without SVG format available online. I will be happy to do either, but I also know that you are concerned about time use, that's why I wanted to check with you first. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.

[scorchingoyster]

right, I agree!

also, I tried a couple of batch gray scale conversion, let's just say they all don't look very good because the base color doesn't translate well directly into grey with a set parameter—so to say, it requires manual tweaking of each image to get the color -> grey scale look decent, see below:

my verdict is that we stick with the color logos for now because all of the available options either don't work very well or will end up taking a lot of time.

[mikemccamon]

The easiest way to handle this is to ask the members for a mono logo (black on white). Every corporate brand book has a mono and/or negative logo. Then we can just grey that one down. If we get that, does it still need to be an SVG or can it be a PNG or JPG?

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On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 9:25 PM Scorching Oyster ***@***.***> wrote: right, I agree! also, I tried a couple of batch gray scale conversion, let's just say they all don't look very good because the base color doesn't translate well directly into grey with a set parameter—so to say, it requires manual tweaking of each image to get the color -> grey scale look decent: [image: image] <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3586992/61178553-0f8fe000-a5bd-11e9-878e-b0a46c109ad1.png> my verdict is that we stick with the color logos for now because all of the available options either don't work very well or will end up taking a lot of time. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#32?email_source=notifications&email_token=ALT4FQTDYEOT4HJEEECLNCDP7KFDLA5CNFSM4IC5EKWKYY3PNVWWK3TUL52HS4DFVREXG43VMVBW63LNMVXHJKTDN5WW2ZLOORPWSZGODZ342KI#issuecomment-511167785>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ALT4FQSJBGT7YWSLVZ4FRE3P7KFDLANCNFSM4IC5EKWA> .

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[scorchingoyster]

either a SVG or PNG would work, since we need the transparency, JPG won't fit the criteria.

the larger corporations should have a version of that ready, but smaller companies might not.

actually, let me just manually convert each one, I tried doing 2-3 in Photoshop just now and it seems it takes 1~2min top for each one, which should take about +/- an hour to get them done by hand. it looks much better than batch conversion or done outside of Photoshop.

[scorchingoyster]

it's actually a little faster than I thought, only took 30min and I am half-way through; I had to tweak specific ones or find a different version online but most were straightforward

[scorchingoyster]

took a little over an hour and a half, but the members list is now in full grey scale on live. also added a lighten hover interaction.

I did have to custom darken about half them since the originals were so light when they are converted.