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sybrew avatar sybrew commented on May 31, 2024

Hi @phrench,

As they are, as well as I, still skeptical about the results of their findings; it seems to be just a fluke.
And I'll definitely will check into this and I will keep my eye out; however, it's far from the recommended guidelines.

A 302 redirect "extra option" would be nice, but it's also quite at the advanced side of things, and Google might eventually even fix this fluke, and we'll be worse off from it.
I'll leave this open and we'll see what others think :).

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sybrew avatar sybrew commented on May 31, 2024

Hi @phrench,

A filter is on its way. I do not believe this should be in the hands of novice users just yet.

The filter:
the_seo_framework_redirect_status_code

Example:
add_filter( 'the_seo_framework_redirect_status_code', function() { return 302; } );

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qx54 avatar qx54 commented on May 31, 2024

Hi @sybrew

Great news! I set my 302s by using a redirection plugin.

Regarding novice users: Same could be said for the noindex checkbox, canonical and the 301 itself. I think it makes perfectly sense to offer a choice for the redirect: 301, 302 or 307.

You can still add a warning or tooltip.

PS: Thanks for your plugin, I'm using it already on 30+ sites. Please make sure upgrades are always non-destructive and don't require user input since I have auto-update enabled.

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sybrew avatar sybrew commented on May 31, 2024

Hi @phrench,

That's correct: the same could be said about those options. However, the 302's being beneficial is based upon out-of-the-ordinary experiments. So maybe my word choice for "novice" wasn't correct; shall I say "rather conventional" 😄?

In general, many of those Robots and Canonical options shouldn't be touched. However, if I look at how I set up my own site's pages; I activate those so often I don't believe they should be exclusive:
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Every extra option makes it more difficult for the end-user to use the plugin and control its website. Especially when it comes to every single post: less is more.
https://wordpress.org/about/philosophy/ - Decisions, not options.

Nevertheless, a filter is a great start for any new and rather nonconforming optimization, so the tech-savvy users among us can experiment before it going live.

About the auto-update: I always make sure I perform a full "update-routine" before I publish big updates.
Please keep in mind that 2.8.0 will no longer support PHP 5.2. That too should be handled (thanks for reminding me!).

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sybrew avatar sybrew commented on May 31, 2024

Smooth upgrade is now in place: 807ecec :)

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qx54 avatar qx54 commented on May 31, 2024

That's what advanced SEO is about: Trying different things and pushing boundaries ;)

I run a lot of onpage and offpage experiments and while everybody is using 301 just because it gets mentioned everywhere, there's better options than those best practices. I mean let alone canonical is so powerful and offers you so many possibilities. But you never read about this. Which I like.

Just to be clear: I'm using a Wordpress bulk management dashboard which handles the updates on the connected WP sites. Not sure how native auto-updates is related to this.

Yes, luckily the bulk management tool allows to execute custom PHP code on all connected sites. All my hostings are at least PHP 5.3

Thanks!

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sybrew avatar sybrew commented on May 31, 2024

301 still is the standard, that 302 might work better is still an unknown (but rather welcome) side-effect. I'm just not ready to embrace it yet. Reasons for are mentioned in my previous replies.

Not sure how native auto-updates is related to this.

Any update is related to this, that's in the magic of semantic programming 😄. Even your bulk management tool should work flawlessly.

Cheers 😄

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sybrew avatar sybrew commented on May 31, 2024

I'm closing this issue because:

  1. The filter has been implemented. Feel free to use it!
  2. It's risky business. It's always best to follow the standards and guidelines; regardless of (single use case) testing results.
  3. I'm white-hat, and so is The SEO Framework 😄. Abusing SEO is a nice way towards upgrade your website to a Penguin petting zoo for your visitors at Facebook, and Facebook only.
  4. No feedback is coming in nor new tests have been conducted.

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