Rate limiting issues about tyk

[lonelycode]

Rate limiter has now been switched to use a rolling window. Still supports multiple processes (transaction MULTI) and can't be gamed by straddling the TTL since it uses a rolling record of request history in a sorted set, so straddling TTL will fail because request count follows the rate limit period window.

[weters]

One more potential issue (I hope it's a bug and not a feature):

Let's say you have a rate of 1000 per 60 seconds.

1. Make a single request
2. Wait 58 seconds
3. Make 998 requests
4. Wait 2 seconds
5. Make 999 requests

1,997 requests will be made in a period of 4 seconds and all will succeed.

I would like to see rate limiting prevent more than X requests over a given Y period. Instead of having the bucket completely emptied when the time elapses, the bucket can be slowly drained every second in order to prevent a burst of double the rate in a short time period.

[lonelycode]

Hi,

1. Yes this true, it is used in reporting though, we will eventually phase it out
2. Also aware of this one, and it should be simple to fix

General question: we only put quota thresholds in the response header because throttle thresholds change so quickly and would be different across parallelised responses.

But yes it could be added, we've just not seen the need for it yet.

On 13 Mar 2015, at 05:31, Thomas Peters [email protected] wrote:

According to Access Control (v1.5), allowance and rate should be set to the same value.

I'm seeing two issues:

allowance is never actually used. AFAICT, it's only ever decremented (session_manager.go).
rate has an off-by-one error. If you set rate to 5 and per to 5, this sounds like it should be: "max of 5 requests every 5 seconds". However, this will only allow 4 requests to succeed and will fail on the fifth request.
General question: If you are using rate limiting, should it return in the response headers? Currently I only see the quota information returned with a X-Ratelimit-Remaining header which isn't accurate as usually your rate limiting has tighter thresholds that your quota. Restated: should there be separate response headers: one for quota, and one for rate limiting?

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[lonelycode]

Ah, yes I see your point regarding the bucket emptying. It's an interesting option, would need to investigate further as our throttling mechanism is entirely in Redis to speed things up, not sure if it supports auto decrementing keys. I guess it could be done with a built in Lua script command.

Open to suggestions (and PR's) :-)

On 13 Mar 2015, at 05:41, Thomas Peters [email protected] wrote:

One more potential issue (I hope it's a bug and not a feature):

Let's say you have a rate of 1000 per 60 seconds.

Make a single request
Wait 58 seconds
Make 998 requests
Wait 2 seconds
Make 999 requests
I would like to see rate limiting prevent more than X requests over a given Y period. Instead of having the bucket completely emptied when the time elapses, the bucket can be slowly drained every second in order to prevent a burst of double the rate in a short time period.

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[lonelycode]

Thanks for the example, you're right, the tests don't catch the off by one issue - to be honest we really need to improve the testing throughout :-S

The off by one bug is quite a simple fix, we'll just need to increment the counter when it goes into the key store, that makes the rate limiter behave more rationally.

Will add this to the next release.

[lonelycode]

Just saw your commit to your fork, want to send a PR? Will merge it in :-)

[weters]

I submitted the pull request. I'll give the bucket draining code some thought and will hopefully submit something soon.

[lonelycode]

Merged :-) thanks for that!

Yeah, I've been thinking about bucket draining too - the current setup does
all the work in redis, so it's quite efficient.

However, we could implement a more robust time-window based method that
still makes use of redis increments (so that multi-node deployments keep in
sync with parallel requests), so long as all the variables of the algo are
exposed it should work... Now just need the algorithm.

On Friday, March 13, 2015, Thomas Peters [email protected] wrote:

I submitted the pull request. I'll give the bucket draining code some
thought and will hopefully submit something soon.

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