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brentzundel avatar brentzundel commented on June 15, 2024

I'm not opposed to seeing an example in the spec that has been secured using JAdES, but the WG will need to come to consensus on that.

Has it been listed in the VC Specifications Directory as a viable securing mechanism? That should be the first step regardless.

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anthonycamilleri avatar anthonycamilleri commented on June 15, 2024

@brentzundel added as w3c/vc-specs-dir#36

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msporny avatar msporny commented on June 15, 2024

@anthonycamilleri wrote:

@brentzundel added as w3c/vc-specs-dir#36

This has been merged and included in the VC Specs Directory.

I'll note that the example linked to above is really big and verbose. Do you think you could add a JADES extension to respec-vc? That is what we use to generate the digitally signed examples. We could include JADES as another tab in some of the examples if you did so.

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TallTed avatar TallTed commented on June 15, 2024

In any case, we should capitalize JAdES (the "JSON format for AdES Signatures") correctly, painful though it may be...

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iherman avatar iherman commented on June 15, 2024

The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2024-06-05

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6.1. Suggest to make explicit reference to the JADES standard (issue vc-data-model#1481)

See github issue vc-data-model#1481.

Brent Zundel: suggestion to make explicit reference to JADES standard.
… request is to have an example in our spec of how to do this.

Manu Sporny: I prefer not to include a big example, things signed with JADES are like 100KB blobs, adding an example would not demonstrate anything.

Dmitri Zagidulin: can we /link/ to a JADES example?

Manu Sporny: request to normatively say it is totally fine to use JADES, we shouldn't do that either.
… we do in the spec mention a variety of other securing formats, we mention JWT, CWT, mDL, Gordian Envelopes, etc, can add JADES to list.

Brent Zundel: +1 to adding to that list.

Brent Zundel: proposal is to link to JADES as we have linked to other securing mechanisms.

Phillip Long: +1 to that.

Brent Zundel: if you are opposed jump into the issue and tell us, otherwise that is what we will do.
… thanks to all for being here.

Ivan Herman: +1 for me as well.


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msporny avatar msporny commented on June 15, 2024

PR #1501 has been raised to address this issue. This issue will be closed once PR #1501 has been merged.

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iherman avatar iherman commented on June 15, 2024

The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2024-06-12

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2.2. Add reference to JAdES standard in Ecosystem Compatability. (pr vc-data-model#1501)

See github pull request vc-data-model#1501.

See github issue vc-data-model#1481.

Brent Zundel: pull request 1501. the related issue is 1481. 1481 says -- we have a JADES impl of securing a VC, and think the spec should note that. this PR adds a link to JADES for ecosystem compatibility -- already has anoncreds, ACDC, many other 'vc-like' things that should be compatible with this spec.
… want to give folks a chance to look at it if they have not yet. it will be merged.

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