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msporny avatar msporny commented on May 21, 2024 2

The hyphenated term is meant to be uncomfortable, so we continue the discussion.

The hyphenated term has led to a fair number of people confused about the hyphenated term. It is now causing more damage. The group needs to make a decision. Multiple organizations are now using "verifier" in their product literature.

Another data point is that the voting process we were using is designed to select the item that has the most consensus, even if its close. Reading "nuance" into the voting outcome is problematic because the voting mechanism we used takes that nuance into account and picks a winner not based on polarized choices, but based on whether or not the electing body can live with the result. So the two top choices were things where the voting body could live with either one, but the term "verifier" came out on top because there was a slight preference for that over "inspector".

I suggest we go with verifier because 1) that's what companies are starting to use in their marketing literature, and 2) it was the top pick for the poll (which was designed to pick the thing that had the stronger support among two options that the community could live with).

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stonematt avatar stonematt commented on May 21, 2024

you missed the group discussion following the vote. even though verifier gained the most votes in the run off, the interim process showed more polarization than the other 2 roles did. we were all a bit surprised by the nuance of the results. The concern was that "Verifier" was overburdened and not necessarily intuitive in this context. The hyphenated term is meant to be uncomfortable, so we continue the discussion. Identify appropriate supporting roles in the eco system and ultimately settle on a term that fits better. Simultaneously, we didn't want to block progress on FPWD.

I'm not comfortable w/ simply selecting "Verifier" at this point.

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msporny avatar msporny commented on May 21, 2024

the interim process showed more polarization than the other 2 roles did

What do you mean by "the interim process"?

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stonematt avatar stonematt commented on May 21, 2024

I support this.

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ChristopherA avatar ChristopherA commented on May 21, 2024

+1

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