We need more ad spaces about boxofdevs.github.io

[Ad5001]

Wow. Suprised nobody mentioned the most widespread and fastest js library yet: https://vanilla-js.com

[HimbeersaftLP]

@Dog2puppy please don't be offended, but...

[HimbeersaftLP]

Ofc we do, did noone notice that before?

What do you guys think of doing it all on glitch so that we can all have a part in coding it instead of it being on the main computer?

@Ad5001 @Dog2puppy @TheDragonRing This is an example of showdown, it is used by Google Cloud Platform and Stackoverflow. https://glitch.com/edit/#!/elated-may

[catgirlinspace]

I thought Vanilla JS was really a library at first. :P

[SuperOP535]

k

[AvgZing]

I'm blind!

[AvgZing]

in fact, GitHub has its own api for converting markdown to html

@Dog2puppy Vue is not for the backend.
@Dog2puppy Vue is for the frontend.

[dragonwocky]

I see your point.

[Vaults1]

You need to get visitors first 😛. What's the analytics for this site?

[AvgZing]

(on vacation, managed to find data) Analytics: 1 visitor per week.

Side note: I created a test site using jekyll and it looked very bad. Please keep the current site

[dragonwocky]

@TheRoyalBlock some Jekyll themes look good, some look bad.

[catgirlinspace]

@TheRoyalBlock Are you saying my site I just redesigned a few days ago looks bad? Dog2puppy.tk

[AvgZing]

Your site looks fine, but (no offense) not as themed towards the name as this. This is box/wood.

[HimbeersaftLP]

@TheRoyalBlock Since when are cardboard boxes wood themed?
(Yes I know cardboard is made out of wood)

[catgirlinspace]

@TheRoyalBlock Well look at pmmp. They took the alpha template from HTML5 and made it Jekyll compatible. And while wood looks nice, I prefer a very clean and easy on the eyes layout, such as jgthms/bulma which is what I used for my site and I'm going to use for the upcoming project (check Discord) admin area.

[AvgZing]

I like an appealing themed layout, not an empty, hollow layout.

[HimbeersaftLP]

We need to add more ad spaces!

(I know where the door is)

[catgirlinspace]

We have a door?

[dragonwocky]

0_o

[catgirlinspace]

I guess my monitor has too low of a resolution I didn't see that when it was really small on boxofdevs.com. 😆

[HimbeersaftLP]

LMAO

[AvgZing]

We'll add more ad spaces soon, to random parts of the site

[AvgZing]

A side bar, maybe?

[catgirlinspace]

I got the perfect idea. We spam users with ads. I mean, they probably won’t notice. They’ll just think the ads are our plugins.

[Vaults1]

lol this github issue is public and that isn't really great for user satisfaction

[catgirlinspace]

It was a joke...

[Vaults1]

oh lol, sorry sarcasm isn't really noticeable online

[dragonwocky]

lol have we actually earnt any money at all from those ads?

[AvgZing]

Absolutely 0 revenue at the moment.

[catgirlinspace]

We have 3.6k satoshi which is worth $0.50 USD. We need to reach 100k for minimum payout, due to the BTC network being in a traffic jam.

[dragonwocky]

ah. I see.

[catgirlinspace]

You see what? The network being in a traffic jam?

[dragonwocky]

I see that we have 3.6k satoshi (a currency I did not previously know existed), and I see that we need to reach 100k satoshi for minimum payout (because the BTC network is in a traffic jam), and I see that we are getting very little money from the small amount of traffic to our website.

[catgirlinspace]

1. Satoshi is just smaller parts of bitcoin. 1 satoshi = 0.00000001 BTC

2. A-Ads will add altcoin withdraws soon, so we can avoid the traffic jam entirely.

Now back to @Dog2puppy, using JavaScript you can read blog posts from a markdown file and send them as HTML.

[catgirlinspace]

But what would we do with JS?

[AvgZing]

@nathjeid that seems off-topic

[dragonwocky]

@nathjeid how do you read the markdown file with JS? We don't need it for blog posts, but I'm curious...

[AvgZing]

Try it: make a repo with gh-pages and no index file, but have the readme. you'll see the contents of the readme displayed

[catgirlinspace]

So how's that an API?

[catgirlinspace]

Isn't that just making a new repo?

[AvgZing]

alright, buh bye, time for school

[catgirlinspace]

I'm on a 2 hour delay. Go snow!

[dragonwocky]

@TheRoyalBlock I know GitHub has it's own thing, but I'm curious about doing it with plain JS without GitHub's "API". (E.g. a gallery thing, where the JS gets a markdown file that contains an image and description, then displays them all on the same page)

[catgirlinspace]

@TheDragonRing You could make an NPM package.

EDIT: nvm, it's already been done.

[Ad5001]

With a simple ajax request to the github API would do the trick, althought they have a rate limit.

[catgirlinspace]

They do have an API. https://developer.github.com/v3/markdown/

[Ad5001]

And with plain JS: https://github.com/evilstreak/markdown-js

[catgirlinspace]

Just asking, but does anyone else use Codenvy?

@Dog2puppy I have heard of Codenvy..

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@nathjeid Well, that doesn't make it much easier, nor better. You still have image tags, but with markdown you don't get to do beautiful formatting. I don't understand the purpose, but the function is interesting

@TheRoyalBlock This is a hold back, why not have a database and work with React?

[catgirlinspace]

React uses JSX. Vue.js is soooooo much better.

[AvgZing]

Nah, I honestly prefer React over Vue @dog2puppy although I've been experimenting with both

[catgirlinspace]

I love Vue still. I'm using it with webpack to make my project for school.

[catgirlinspace]

I have my doubts about companies like Apple and jQuery using it.

[HimbeersaftLP]

@Dog2puppy I'm quite sure they do :D

[AvgZing]

@Dog2puppy They aren't lying

[catgirlinspace]

So why doesn't jQuery use jQuery?

[AvgZing]

What?

[catgirlinspace]

jQuery uses Vanilla JS. So why don't they use their own product??

[AvgZing]

No they don't!

[catgirlinspace]

And this shows...?

[HimbeersaftLP]

vanilla-js.com is just a parody page that tells people not to use libraries when they Google what "Vanilla JS" is.

What would you guys think of a re-design where everyone has a say.. We can include aTmG, SuperOP535, Thunder33345, and nathjeid (me). This would be great so that you get everyone’s point of view, and I could do the backend because backend rules and @TheRoyalBlock/SuperOP535 can do the design. The rest could pick..

@Dog2puppy @TheDragonRing @UltiGB @TheRoyalBlock @HimbeersaftLP @Taki21 @Ad5001 @NiekertDev @InspectorGadget (sorry for the ping but look above).

[dragonwocky]

@nathjeid we definitely need a redesign.
I'm happy with it being something that the active members on Discord get a say in as well.
As for you doing the backend... that really depends on the hosting and what you mean by the backend. At the moment, hosting is just GitHub Pages, and I'm not sure if sites hosted with GitHub Pages can have a custom backend... (correct me if I'm wrong)

@BoxOfDevs/members

[catgirlinspace]

Can we use Bulma and Vue?

[dragonwocky]

I don't see why not.

[catgirlinspace]

Okay. Also, not related to the site, but can you help me on something? I'm trying to make an NPM package and I know your good at JS.

[SuperOP535]

I have a NPM package

[catgirlinspace]

catgirlinspace/splatoon2.ink-node-api-client@4b85a6a#diff-168726dbe96b3ce427e7fedce31bb0bcR68

@Dog2puppy Vue is framework.
@TheDragonRing The backend is in Golang or Node.js, we can host it on Glitch or Heroku as a team..
@TheDragonRing The backend is what serves the frontend and allows for things like dashboard’s, authorizing, and in our case blog posting.

golang ftw

@Dog2puppy Just to make it clear I am good at js too..

[catgirlinspace]

Why would we use Go? Node.js is the only real dev language.

[catgirlinspace]

And we can use Vue. I'm using it for a school project as an SPA.

@Dog2puppy Node.js is a language and Golang is too. Vue is something that not everyone knows, personally I have messed with Vue, and did not like it. That is why my website is done in React. I will point out that expecting everyone to know Golang is the same too.

Alright, everyone. We can vote now and see what we will use.
Backend: http://www.strawpoll.me/15014604
Frontend: http://www.strawpoll.me/15014615

[catgirlinspace]

I know that.

@Dog2puppy Okay, also for anyone to lazy to google. https://vuejs.org

[dragonwocky]

@nathfreder I know what a backend is, but with how we have the site hosted currently it's not something we can do. That's all I meant.

Vue would be a good choice but not everyone understands it..

[Ad5001]

As every framework, it'll get outdated in a few mounthes. I'd prefer not using anything but starting from stratch.

@Ad5001 That would be okay..

[catgirlinspace]

I’m fine with using Glitch.

[dragonwocky]

Backend I have no experience in, other than a bit of messing with PHP and attempting to customise things like the Anchor CMS, so no opinion on that (I don't think we need it, though).

Frontend, either Vue, Google Polymer, or something built from scratch (probably using jQuery).

@Dog2puppy I can do JS, but I don't know anything about making NPM packages, sorry...

@nathfreder why do you keep thinking we are doing a blog? Far as I know, we're definitely not.

[catgirlinspace]

@TheDragonRing It’s not really related to NPM with the problem. It’s just with vars im having an issue. It’s probably a stupid mistake I made.

[catgirlinspace]

@nathfreder If you added me to https://glitch.com/edit/#!/elated-may, you can remove me. I had accidentally clicked the button.

@TheDragonRing I heard it mentioned, the backend is just what the website runs on.. Every website has a backend of some sort..

@Dog2puppy I do not think that I did.. I thought it was just me.

@TheDragonRing We can sort out the backend later, we need to make a wireframe first.. (the design)

[dragonwocky]

@Dog2puppy sure I can help then. What're you having issues with?

@nathfreder it has been mentioned, but we aren't actually having one. But yeah, we can get to that later - for now let's get a frontend going on GitHub Pages.

[catgirlinspace]

@TheDragonRing catgirlinspace/splatoon2.ink-node-api-client@4b85a6a#diff-168726dbe96b3ce427e7fedce31bb0bcR68

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@nathfreder Yea, as @TheDragonRing stated already: The majority of our website will be a simple frontend site hosted on gh-pages, simply because it is faster, more reliable, and more public than glitch. The main backend page will be the projects page, which will ideally have automatic phar building for each commit, along with a stable releases section and possibly even an auto-updater.

Try to move to #26 for the rest of the website redesign discussion.