Dataset Submission: Synthesized Nutrient Dataset associated with research paper by Hayley Dosser about hakai-datasets

[raytula]

Hi @hvdosser
[cc @jenjax2 @timvdstap @JessyBarrette ]
I created this issue to document and track the steps required to make your Nutrient dataset available online and referenced by a DOI. I will speak with others early next week to see who is available to help you with some of the technical steps. However, you are welcome to get started on this anytime. In particular:

• Please collect the associated datasets and documentation together, organized and documented in a way that anyone accessing the information can easily use is to access, understand and use the underlying data. You are welcome to put this in Google Drive for now, but it may move to a dedicated GitHub repository later. If using Google Drive, please use your hakai.org Google Account
• Please start a draft metadata record using the Hakai metadata entry form, including as much metadata as you can. Examples: draft Hakai Nutrient Research Datasets metadata record; a recent OA record...and here is the same content in the metadata entry form

Once the metadata form is complete, including links to the related data/other files in Google Drive or GitHub, it will be published to the Hakai metadata catalogue (like the OA dataset) and DOI can be created that will link to the published record.

Ray

[JessyBarrette]

@hvdosser Hi Hayley!
I hope things are going well for you! Let me know if you have any questions regarding any of the points given by Ray above. I can help you get all this sorted out!

Best regards,
Jessy

[timvdstap]

Hi Hayley!

I'll echo @JessyBarrette - happy to help where I can!

Cheers, Tim

[hvdosser]

Hi Jessy, Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm still not completely sure what the plan is. If possible, I would like to get a DOI for the existing Hakai Institute nutrient dataset. This would 1) avoid the need to go through the whole process again for the subset of samples I used and 2) be consistent with the link we provided the journal for the full DFO nutrient dataset available on CIOOS. If this is a possibility, what would be my next steps? Cheers, Hayley

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On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 2:15 PM Jessy Barrette ***@***.***> wrote: @hvdosser <https://github.com/hvdosser> Hi Hayley! I hope things are going well for you! Let me know if you have any questions regarding any of the points given by Ray above. I can help you get all this sorted out! Best regards, Jessy — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#64 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AK7G4ZLHRXFVYFVX7AE2NDLUHXNYHANCNFSM5GCNOM2Q> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

[jenjax2]

Hi @hvdosser and @JessyBarrette
After talking to @raytula, it seems like making one large synthesis product of all of the data you used (DFO and Hakai both CTD and nutrients) may make the most sense.

[raytula]

Hi @hvdosser

My understanding is that your paper is based on Hakai and DFO nutrient data from a broad geographic area and over a relatively long time period. If this is correct, then the Hakai Research data only includes a subset of the Hakai data used for your paper, as it currently only included research-ready data from one site and for a relatively short period of time. Regarding the DFO nutrient data, the CIOOS link you provided is subject to change, so not really appropriate for publication. Also, we are not yet in a position where we are generating DOIs (ie. permanent links) to non-Hakai datasets shared via CIOOS (but that may come). So, from a technically-focused perspective, I believe that sharing a synthesis dataset that includes all of the data used for the paper is best approach. In the future, if your research is based on a subset of data that can be accessed via existing DOIs, then using those DOIs would likely be a better approach, but we're not there yet.

@JessyBarrette and @timvdstap can help your through the process of completing the metadata record, making your data available online and generating a DOI.

Cheers, Ray

[hvdosser]

Hi Ray, Thank you for the help and clarification! I was under the impression (based on instructions from Charles Hannah) that the permanent links provided through CIOOS would remain fixed, so it's good to know that's not the case. I also very much appreciate Jessy and Tim's help, as I imagine the metadata record for the entire combined dataset will be substantial. I'm going to confirm with my co-authors that everyone is comfortable with this approach, and then we can get this done! Thank you again, Hayley

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On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:42 AM Ray Brunsting ***@***.***> wrote: Hi @hvdosser <https://github.com/hvdosser> My understanding is that your paper is based on Hakai and DFO nutrient data from a broad geographic area and over a relatively long time period. If this is correct, then the Hakai Research data only includes a subset of the Hakai data used for your paper, as it currently only included research-ready data from one site and for a relatively short period of time. Regarding the DFO nutrient data, the CIOOS link you provided is subject to change, so not really appropriate for publication. Also, we are not yet in a position where we are generating DOIs (ie. permanent links) to non-Hakai datasets shared via CIOOS (but that may come). So, from a technically-focused perspective, I believe that sharing a synthesis dataset that includes all of the data used for the paper is best approach. In the future, if your research is based on a *subset* of data that can be accessed via existing DOIs, then using those DOIs would likely be a better approach, but we're not there yet. @JessyBarrette <https://github.com/JessyBarrette> and @timvdstap <https://github.com/timvdstap> can help your through the process of completing the metadata record, making your data available online and generating a DOI. Cheers, Ray — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#64 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AK7G4ZNWAUGB2FAOIX7Y2QTUIARGJANCNFSM5GCNOM2Q> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

[hvdosser]

Hi Ray, Having spoken with my co-authors (and particularly with Charles Hannah about the DFO data), I think the preferred approach is to use the CIOOS links for everything except the Hakai nutrient data, and create a new DOI for only those data. He recognized that the CIOOS links would change, but feels that it's the best we can do for now (and will keep my paper consistent with other publications from DFO scientists). So let's move forward with getting a link for the Hakai nutrient data we used. I'll start on the metadata form later today. Thanks so much for your help sorting this out! Cheers, Hayley On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:53 AM Hayley Dosser ***@***.***> wrote:

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Hi Ray, Thank you for the help and clarification! I was under the impression (based on instructions from Charles Hannah) that the permanent links provided through CIOOS would remain fixed, so it's good to know that's not the case. I also very much appreciate Jessy and Tim's help, as I imagine the metadata record for the entire combined dataset will be substantial. I'm going to confirm with my co-authors that everyone is comfortable with this approach, and then we can get this done! Thank you again, Hayley On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 7:42 AM Ray Brunsting ***@***.***> wrote: > Hi @hvdosser <https://github.com/hvdosser> > > My understanding is that your paper is based on Hakai and DFO nutrient > data from a broad geographic area and over a relatively long time period. > If this is correct, then the Hakai Research data only includes a subset of > the Hakai data used for your paper, as it currently only included > research-ready data from one site and for a relatively short period of > time. Regarding the DFO nutrient data, the CIOOS link you provided is > subject to change, so not really appropriate for publication. Also, we are > not yet in a position where we are generating DOIs (ie. permanent links) to > non-Hakai datasets shared via CIOOS (but that may come). So, from a > technically-focused perspective, I believe that sharing a synthesis dataset > that includes all of the data used for the paper is best approach. In the > future, if your research is based on a *subset* of data that can be > accessed via existing DOIs, then using those DOIs would likely be a better > approach, but we're not there yet. > > @JessyBarrette <https://github.com/JessyBarrette> and @timvdstap > <https://github.com/timvdstap> can help your through the process of > completing the metadata record, making your data available online and > generating a DOI. > > Cheers, Ray > > — > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#64 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AK7G4ZNWAUGB2FAOIX7Y2QTUIARGJANCNFSM5GCNOM2Q> > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> > or Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > >

[raytula]

Hi @hvdosser that approach sounds good to me....certainly simpler. Thanks, Ray

[JessyBarrette]

Hayley's Hakai Nutrient data is now available within this repository:
https://github.com/HakaiInstitute/Dosser-et-al2021-hakai-nutrient-dataset

[JessyBarrette]

The metedata records for Hayley et al. 2021 paper is available here:
https://cioos-siooc.github.io/metadata-entry-form/#/en/hakai/oOseiEWez6TzqPUIisEXczg6G8y2/-MoZtzH-n9LBy9Bn29Hl

I'm wondering about the paper's coauthor, Should they also be added to the contact list. @jenjax2 @raytula let me know your thoughts.

[raytula]

Re: I'm wondering about the paper's coauthor, Should they also be added to the contact list.
Only if they were involved in preparing the dataset

[JessyBarrette]

@hvdosser a DOI is now available for your datasets : https://doi.org/10.21966/j3j5-wt70

I updated the metadata form to include it should be available on the CKAN record itself by tomorrow.

[hvdosser]

Hi Jessy, Thank you, that's great! Hayley

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On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 10:51 AM Jessy Barrette ***@***.***> wrote: @hvdosser <https://github.com/hvdosser> a DOI is now available for you dataset : https://doi.org/10.21966/j3j5-wt70 I updated the metadata form to include it should be available on the CKAN record itself by tomorrow. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#64 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AK7G4ZKWO6WY3XHFOHPCMXTUQ6G3RANCNFSM5GCNOM2Q> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

[JessyBarrette]

I will close this issue since the dataset, metadata record and DOI are now all available!