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Just a thank you for getting all of these odd sizes and forgotten fonts into one place! I'm currently playing with a 128x64 LED panel and was looking for old mac fonts, but the like of Espy (sniff, my old newton!) are just awesome for that sort of things :-o

Hi John!

I came across this repo, seems like a nice resource compiling a good deal of history of Apple Fonts. I am looking for the old New York Apple typeface https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_(1983_typeface), which is not the same as the 2019 one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_(2019_typeface).

The latter is available for Developers from Apple: https://developer.apple.com/fonts/, I am looking for the TrueType 1983 version of New York developed by Susan Kare.

I've been able to look into the *.dfont files you have here:
NewYork_15.dfont NewYork_17.dfont NewYork_21.dfont NewYork_22.dfont NewYork_26.dfont

But upon converting them to .ttf using fondu in Ubuntu/Linux, and inspecting them with FontForge they seem to be the old bitmap versions pre-dating MacOS 7.

# this is on windows wsl - ubuntu 
sudo apt install fondu
fondu NewYork_15.dfont
# produces NewYork_15.ttf

This is how they loook in FontForge:

I have browsed your repo and couldn't find other instances of New York fonts for Mac OS 7 through 9, do you carry these in this repo? Otherwise do you have any pointers on where to look?

thanks in advance -- fernan

Since old Mac Systems used the Resource Fork to store font data (instead of the data fork), all the original font files in the repo are Zero size and are missing the font data.

Some possible solutions might be:

• Use some sort of archive utility to pack the files before checking them in (like BinHex hqx or possibly zip on OS X
• Extract the resource forks to a file data fork using SplitForks on OS X and check those files in

This would need to be done from the original files on your computer the repo originated from - git unfortunately is ignorant of resource forks without using something like some specific git hooks to split/recombine them.

I found these fonts on the ARPL (Apple Reference and Presentations Library) CD v 3.0 from around 1990:
Miscellaneous Fonts.sit.zip (.sit in .zip, as Github doesn't accept .sit archives and I wanted to make sure )

• Abeline 12
• Albuquerque 12
• Ann Arbor 12
• Assisi 12
• Calcutta 12
• Cape Canaveral 12
• Cupertino 12
• Denver 12
• Helsinki 12
• Hollywood 12
• Kawasaki* 12
• Madrid 12
• Palermo 12
• Paris 12
• Quebec 12
• Sydney 12
• Tripoli 12

The CD (and many other ARPL CD's) can be downloaded here: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/apple-reference-and-presentations-library-internal-edition-v10

Here is an example of transformed glyphs of Time_18.sfd to Bitmap.sfd.
Bitmap.zip

Thanks for this great collection! Really looking fw to playing with these.

I've tried converting these to .otf or .ttf with a bunch of Online Font Coverters I found (such as https://onlinefontconverter.com/, https://anyconv.com/fr/convertisseur-de-dfont-en-ttf/ ...) but this translation doe not seem to work. Anything I'm doing wrong?