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jrieke avatar jrieke commented on July 19, 2024
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jrieke avatar jrieke commented on July 19, 2024

silence -> tonic: (-1.90 +- 0.01) pA
tonic -> silence: (-2.73 +- 0.01) pA

See plot and discussion in #1
Created separate issue for spike delays ( #3 )

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borismarin avatar borismarin commented on July 19, 2024

Now that you have the infrastructure in place, it would also be interesting to further play with the system near these transitions. How does spiking appear/disappear? Are there transient spikes close to the transition? Is there a significant delay (related to #3)? Are there changes in spike shape/amplitude? Apply sharp, short square current pulses (crude approximation to deltas for the physicist in you) to the system. When is it excitable (like "real" neurones)?

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jrieke avatar jrieke commented on July 19, 2024

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that: The neuron always goes right into tonic spiking, there are no single action potentials around the rheobase (also checked this for a few values between -1.90 pA and -1.91 pA with long simulation times).
Just looked at spike shapes: There are no visible differences between the current steps in terms of shape. The amplitude of the spikes changes a bit - opened #4 to investigate this. Also, the first spike is always a bit larger than the other ones (this difference is minimal around the rheobase, becomes visible for >0 pA and is very significant for large currents).

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borismarin avatar borismarin commented on July 19, 2024

How are you choosing the initial conditions? Should it make a difference?

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borismarin avatar borismarin commented on July 19, 2024

Can in induce firing via a a short (delta-like) I pulse when silence and tonic spk coexist?

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jrieke avatar jrieke commented on July 19, 2024

See readme here. I always let the system settle for 5000 ms, so I think the initial conditions (or rather, the conditions of the current steps before) shouldn't make a difference (EDIT: see below). I also looked at the silence -> tonic transition by going from resting state (I=-12 pA) right to a single current step, and the rheobase occured at an amplitude of -1.90 pA as well.

For the delta pulses, see #5

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jrieke avatar jrieke commented on July 19, 2024

To correct on this: For the tonic -> silence transition, the rheobase does of course depend on the previous conditions (for example, starting with tonic spiking at a 30 pA current step, the transition to silence occurs at -2.60 pA). The rheobase reported above (-2.73 pA) was the smallest rheobase current I could get (by approaching it in 0.01 pA steps).

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