Convergence on single neuron with large vectors about kohonen

[nmondon]

Hi Carl !

Thanks for the feedback, you're right about these points,

• I will make the normalization optional and maybe others algorithmic steps, it will allow us to figure out what are the root of your issue
• yes, we should improve the test coverage, one of the issues I encountered then was the limited duration of a test under mocha (2 seconds max if I recall well).

[cbanbury]

I have tried commenting out the normalisation line:

this.data = this.normalize(data, scales);

but still see the same convergence. I'll have a play with different normalisation methods externally.

Regarding the timeout, I think you can set the timeout for one or more tests manually. I've been trying to find some test data, how about using astronomical spectra:

http://cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/Cat?III/92#sRM2.1

This paper did something similar to classify stellar types using SOM.

[nmondon]

Thanks, let me know if you find something!

I'll have a look, I'm sure that will be an interesting test case :)

[nmondon]

I was quite busy the past week, but I will be more available for this this week !

[nmondon]

waow, 2799 dimensions in the stellar dataset!

[cbanbury]

Ha, yes it might be a bit overkill for a test, in theory it should still work though. Would be nice to see what the limits are for this kind of thing using JavaScript.

[nmondon]

Vectorial operations seem to be the problem (combined with normalized values)... Even with a single iteration, all data are converging to the same neuron because dist method returns a NaN... I'm not sure yet

[nmondon]

I got it, it's a BIG mistake in the eigenvectors generation!!
Basically, I generate vectors of dimension N with N the num of my input data, not the num of their dimensions... :ashamed

[nmondon]

It was working because :

• of the dist method parameters order
• and because vectors of inputs had a lower dimension than the neurons' vectors...

Basically, I could have randomly initialized my neurons' vectors, it would have been the same...

The convergence on a single neuron occurs as soon as the dimensions cardinality is bigger than the data input cardinality which make the dist method returns NaN

I'm gonna add a decent test coverage on that!

[cbanbury]

Oops! At least it's a fairly easy fix. 😸

[nmondon]

@cbanbury I've finally added an issue on ml-pca repo: mljs/pca#9 because I was not sure of the behavior of their eigenvectors...
but it was actually my mistake,

After having fixed this, I ran the stars example and results are not that bad for a first attempt, I've begun a visualisation in a dedicated repo: https://github.com/seracio/kohonen-stars (beware, the vis is working but SOM calculation is based on a non released yet version of kohonen - https://github.com/seracio/kohonen/tree/45-api-redesign)

[cbanbury]

Awesome stuff! I have a feeling that I've run into a similar issue with the ml-pca package, so perhaps their docs need more clarity.

The visualisation looks great, and nice to have as an example for using the package.

[nmondon]

v0.7.0 is out, it finally only fix this bug, the API redesign will be for v1!