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stale avatar stale commented on June 11, 2024

Is this still relevant? If so, what is blocking it? Is there anything you can do to help move it forward?

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rhz avatar rhz commented on June 11, 2024

I think it is still relevant. I'd have to check again to see if it is working now. I'm not sure what is blocking it. It would be great to hear from the devs :)

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mixmix avatar mixmix commented on June 11, 2024

hey @rhz , I've been on parental leave and focusing my energies on building Ahau.
I've seen some of those Errors as well, and not sure where they are coming from. The second one is safe (I'm fairly sure), that first one is a localhost connection ...

  1. Are you using just patchbay or are you opening another client at the same time.

In terms of the interface not being functional which replicating, that's a completely different issue, and a hard one to solve easily. Yes that initial sync button probably would have served you well to catch up on 6 months of gossip. But opening the main UI and leaving it for a while should be fine. Sorry it's just not well designed for people being away for months.

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rhz avatar rhz commented on June 11, 2024

Hey @mixmix! Didn't know you're on parental leave! <3 Lots of love to you and your family.

At the time I was just using patchbay, no other client. Recently I started looking for alternatives. I found patchfox first and wanted to try that but ssb-server and scuttle-shell don't compile with nodejs v14. Then I found oasis and I've liked it very much. The only thing I don't know yet how to do and maybe it hasn't been implemented yet is to look at the list of friends, yours or of somebody else, and perhaps even see how many hops there are between you and people in each direction. I'll ask in the appropriate channel though, no worries. Enjoy parental leave :)

So the initial sync button is not only for the initial sync but can be used any time one has been away from the butts for a long time?

Now that I have catched up on gossip I still have the problem sometimes that whenever patchbay starts getting new gossip and indexing it, it slows down significantly and becomes partially unresponsive. This issue happens on oasis as well (pages take forever to load). So I'm guessing it is a problem related to the whole SSBC stack but I'm not sure.

Didn't know you were working on Ahau. Yesterday I read a bit about it on https://ahau.io and it seems interesting. Hope it's going well.

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mixmix avatar mixmix commented on June 11, 2024

So the initial sync button is not only for the initial sync but can be used any time one has been away from the butts for a long time?

Yes!

Re lagging while indexing, yes it's a common problem in js stack. I basically some queries wait until the index is up to date before replying. I think it's possible to say "just give me what you currently have" but that's not been experimented with in js, not sure how reliable or what the experience would be.

Other stacks like rust have experimented with putting manual controls on indexing, so that it only happens when there's some down time, which is super awesome.
I think likely there will be a new wave of clients in the future but for now this is where we are.

Ahau.io is a little out of date. I published some more recent screenshots in #ahau channel on scuttlebutt.

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rhz avatar rhz commented on June 11, 2024

Yes, I thought it could have to do with javascript. Rust sounds very cool! Looking forward to see some scuttlebutt stuff built with it.

Ahau looks amazing! Really liked the idea of having a thin public profile + a personal profile only you see + different profiles for different groups. Identity is relationship.

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stale avatar stale commented on June 11, 2024

Is this still relevant? If so, what is blocking it? Is there anything you can do to help move it forward?

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mixmix avatar mixmix commented on June 11, 2024

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