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Github provides a number of really valuable services such as pull requests.

I few projects have copied some of this functionality, but each project does it differently.

I feel norma should be chosen to ease interoperability as people choose different successors to github. For example, if we had a standard data representation of issues and pull requests as files in a git branch, we could write software to import and export this important data for existing solutions, or clients that were agnostic.

...to say goodbye!

The time has come!

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Guys, maybe it'd be a good thing.
May we hope Micro$oft gets finally rid of the fu**ing Google Analytics tracker on this website soon ?

EDIT : I was (of course) kidding..

Hi this is may be stupid but is my personal Idea that I want to share

1- develop a client WEB-Mobile-Desktop app that have all similarities of github
2- this app uses google drive as way of sharing
3- this app can encrypt or let it open
4- share the drive link repository

What do you think ?

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Many github users work as freelancers and use their github profile as a sort of resumé.

I speculate that some users may want to leave github, but feel compelled to stay because they don't want to 'start over' on another profile elsewhere.

Shall we collect a list of recommendations for profile portability?

While some repositories/organizations may leave GitHub for some other code hosting platform, some may not necessarily do so. Some of the remaining content may be of great value (ex. ZoL, Flask, SIDtoday, etc.).

How should we handle such cases ? Do we copy the existing repositories in their current state elsewhere or do we keep coming back to GitHub for new commits ?

People who've been on GitHub for a long time may have a lot of external links to their GitHub profile and repos.

For repos, for example, is there a way to delete all the code in the repo, replacing it with a forwarding address in the README, and do it in a way that doesn't blow away downstream clones?

The purpose of this repo is to give a voice to those who wanted an independent GitHub, not one owned by any company with any business or agenda outside of serving the open source community. It is a place for such people to collaborate on options, given that GitHub is no longer independent.

If you are not such a person, this place isn't a forum for you.

It is NOT a place to debate the acquisition or the opinions of those opposed to it. It is not a place for you to try to convert people. It is certainly not a place to patronize, troll or otherwise be rude. I will enforce this without hesitation.

Please respect our wishes. You are welcome to make whatever argument you want on UpEnd's twitter, if you really need to.

The readme needs an articulate, explicit description of your point, why you think it is bad, what the problems will be, etc. So far, it just seems like an aversion to Microsoft, which ultimately I don't believe is your main point.

We've done our best to cover the dramatic shift of Microsoft over the years.

Here are several episodes from our backlog to potentially give you a new perspective on this shift.

(listed in chronological order)

• The Changelog #298 — The beginnings of Microsoft Azure with Julia White
• The Changelog #282 — The Impact and Future of Kubernetes with Brendan Burns and Gabe Monroy
• The Changelog #277 — The Story of Visual Studio Code with Julia Liuson, Chris Dias, and PJ Meyer
• The Changelog #275 — The History of GNOME, Mono, and Xamarin with Miguel de Icaza
• Go Time #63 — Changelog Takeover — K8s and Virtual Kubelet with Erk St. Martin and Brian Ketelsen
• The Changelog #256 — Ubuntu Snaps and Bash on Windows Server with Dustin Kirkland
• Go Time #50 — Bringing Kubernetes to Azure with Kris Nova
• Go Time #49 — Adventures in VS Code with Ramya Rao
• The Changelog #249 — Open Source at Microsoft, Inclusion, Diversity, and OSCON with Scott Hanselman
• Spotlight #13 — Node at Microsoft, ChakraCore, and VM Neutrality with Gaurav Seth and Arunesh Chandra
• The Changelog #224 — .NET Core and Microsoft's Shift to Open Source with Bertrand Le Roy
• The Changelog #207 — Ubuntu Everywhere with Dustin Kirkland
• The Changelog #152 — TypeScript and Open Source at Microsoft with Anders Hejlsberg and Jonathan Turner
• The Changelog #134 — Open Sourcing .NET Core with the Microsoft .NET team

If you have questions, I'm here and happy to answer what I can.

Allegedly, GitHub lost $66M in 2016. Business model changes for orgs and private repos since then imply trouble hitting profitability.

Moreover, Developers, Developers, Developers

There has been too much violence, too much pain.
None here are without sin.
I am gravely disappointed.
Again you have made me unleash my brand ambassadors.
Look at what remains of your gallant repositories.
Why? Because you're selfish!
You hoard your feature branches.

Now, my prisoners say
you plan to take your repositories out of the Github.
You sent them out this morning to find another hosting provider.
What a puny plan!
Look around you.
This is the Valley of Sillicon.
See!
Nothing can escape! The Humungus rules the Github!

But I have an honorable compromise.
Just walk away.
Give me the repositories ,the orgs, the administrator rights ,and the whole refugee camp, and I'll spare your commit histories.

Just walk away. I will give you safe passage to Gitlab.

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Add link to: https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-stop-microsoft-from-buying-github

Maybe there should be a list of some alternatives/tutorials on where to/how to migrate away from github. For example, GitLab just released this yesterday;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOXuOg9tQI

The purpose of this repo is to give a voice to those who wanted an independent GitHub, not one owned by any company with any business or agenda outside of serving the open source community. It is a place for such people to collaborate on options, given that GitHub is no longer independent.

If you are not such a person, this place isn't a forum for you.

It is NOT a place to debate the acquisition or the opinions of those opposed to it. It is not a place for you to try to convert people. It is certainly not a place to patronize, troll or otherwise be rude. I will enforce this without hesitation.

Please respect our wishes. You are welcome to make whatever argument you want on UpEnd's twitter (link in the README), if you really need to.

https://twitter.com/gitlab/status/1003027830437892096

Our fellow friend @martenbjork is helping us move to our new home by repainting the walls with his nice-🍑looking Chrome extension that brings back the best OS ever, Windows 😝 ⁽¹⁾.

Wanna feel like home? Get his extension:
https://github.com/martenbjork/github-xp

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors

As many people have decided to migrate their projects to other platforms, why not to label the abandoned GitHub project as "#DeleteGithub"?

If we use #DeleteGithub tag to label our migrated projects, and encourage others to do the same, we can easily see how many projects have chosen to migrate by searching this tag. Like this.

We can make the transition as smooth as possible. You don't have to actually delete the repo and you don't have to break things for others, you can just

git branch deleted
git checkout deleted
git rm -rf *
echo '#DeleteGithub' > README.md
echo '=====' >> README.md
echo '**Deleted!** This project is moved to [notabug.org](https://notabug.org/example/example), welcome to join the free world!' >> README.md
git add README.md
git commit -a -m "Moved, #DeleteGithub!"
git push --set-upstream origin deleted

Then, click "Settings" -> "Branches" -> make "deleted" as Default branch. Finally add the tag "#deletegithub" to your project.

If you found it's a good idea, you may add this suggestion to your repo.

We can find a method for share hosting costs: Example ideas:

• Calculating user's hosting cost and invoicing unless the cost will be bigger than 1$
• Decentralize hosting. Using serverless. Like spotify.
• Donation on open collective
• The super idea: Make a feature: Allow users to donate to open source software and get commission for hosting costs.

Software is basic for us. We can develop gags, and we can make it's features more social. It's already ready and stable.

I don't think it can be stopped.

Frankly, I've been saying I was going to get out of Github for the last three years, but somehow never got around to it. The convenience of being able to search code and projects was attractive.

I'm a free software developer so there's no way I'm going to stay on a platform controlled by Microsoft. It doesn't matter how much they claim to have changed or how much they fund the Linux Foundation. I know what Microsoft does when it takes over companies. Things won't change immediately, but over time it will be extend and extinguish for anything not directly contributing to Microsoft's bottom line.

I seem to have accumulated a lot of repos. I'll back them up, move them to a different system and then I'm outta here. Without an account it will be more difficult to contribute patches to projects which remain here, and that kind of disruption is exactly what Microsoft wants. Break up FOSS. Control the parts of it which directly support their business operations.

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initial written proposal

From the README:

But some believe deeply that the open source community needs an independent home. Some believe that the concentration of so much power in the hands of so few is antithetical not just to free and open software, but also to a free and just society. We, the contributors and stargazers of this project are such people. This project is for us.

If the above does not describe you, if this project is not for you, or if you disagree with it, please do not post here.

This is NOT a forum to debate the acquisition or the opinions of those opposed to it. It is not a place for you to try to convert people. It is certainly not a place to patronize, troll or otherwise be rude. I will enforce this without hesitation.

Please respect our wishes in our house.

I am an attention seeking troll. I violated the rules of this place. On top of that, I posted a link to this violation on Twitter to get more attention for myself.

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We're dead. Move to GitLab.

At first when I heard the news I was devastated and figured this would be the end of the Github I know and love but in all reality it isn't yet. Github's strength was never that it was free or that it was the big dog in open source. It was because everyone came here Huge corporations and regular people contributed, and it remained/appeared to be impartial. In my earlier comments on a different issue I said Microsoft can't be trusted and we inevitably will lose but that is the wrong attitude. We aren't refugees. You can't just flee when you don't like something and we don't even know yet what the outcome will be. It's really easy to throw your hands up and run away. Everyone should stay, make their voices heard and if that doesn't work and Microsoft does ruin Github, leave.

https://gitea.io

What are your thoughts around this one guys?

We started using it some weeks ago and so far so good, there is a lot of things that need improvement and we were thinking (before the news) to start collaborating in this project.

Let's see where it takes us.

Just found this:
https://peers.community/

They have https://notabug.org/ - which appears to be based on the MIT Gogs collaboration platform and appears to be fully dedicated to open-source software.

Just throwing this out there. This is Bitbucket's landing page today...

Get over it

I think gitlabs importer is not copying wiki's at this time. I just had to manually clone and push a github wiki to a gitlab wiki. It may be this feature is missing or they may be under so much load that the importer missed it, but either way those of you with project wiki's will want to make sure you didn't forget your wiki before nuking your project off github.

Other thoughts: the users mass fleeing may kill github before MS ever gets the chance to even do anything bad. for anyone not familiar with the track record MS has with these things, I have an info-meme for you:

edit: I don't know who the image originated with, I just captioned it.

Hi @vassudanagunta, interesting initiative! I just want to point that there is currently no way to indicate lack of support other than not starring the repo, but we can't really count how many people refrained from starring the repo intentionally. Maybe someone can create a new repo expressing opposite views and exhort folks to star it to indicate their support (or like this issue?)

An example of this is what happened with https://github.com/dear-github/dear-github and https://github.com/thank-you-github/thank-you-github back back in the day (+2 years ago).

gitchain... maybe?

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While alternatives such as gitlab, gitea, gogs, etc, are great for internal projects where the authors rightly want to be in control of their own data, they (at least for the time being) lack the community that drives many to GitHub.

More specifically, the following may need to be addressed:

• stars. This positive feedback is a big motivator for many of my open source developer friends.
• visibility. Very few Show HNs are projects hosted on gitlab. Self-hosted repos are harder to find online.
• professional-ness. It is commonplace (afaik) to share one's GitHub profile page with peers and recuiters.

This is by no means a complete list. Feel free to list more things and they come to mind.

I understand that some folks are not happy about the acquisition, but the sincere "refugee camp" language in this repo is a bit much. Developers looking for a new repo platform is very different than families being ripped apart and struggling to survive in war-torn countries. It's a little offensive, to be honest.

Maybe update the readme to refer to supporters as "defectors" (or something similar) instead of "refugees"? And maybe tone down some of the conflict zone rhetoric ("resistance movement", "escape routes")?

I'm not an expert and have lived in GitHub too long to know the alternatives.

Can someone volunteer? We either need a single person who is very unbiased, or two or more volunteers who can cancel out each other's biases.

All the alternatives have pros and cons, and we owe it to the people reading a fair and honest assessment.

Please use issues tagged GitHub alternatives as a resource of people and their ideas.

Hello all,
As librenotes team we are very happy to try contributing to this domain and we prepared a guide about how to setup your own git server and create a script for migration from github to your own server.
If you wish you can put it to readme, so anyone can use it as free as in freedom.

Checkout:
Your Own Git

Best Wishes,
Librenotes Team

The new hub is an independent project developed by an community, for a community. It will be a decentralized network of self hosted servers that store the data across the network. Each server will grant access to the global API for third party services like deployment platforms.

Key points:

• Business needs profitability and gh is no exception;
• ms has the money
• gh has no money(around $60M loss recently)
• they will sign the deal - if they news are true -, no matter what people think. Get over it.

With those points in mind, I’m really trying to understand what’s the point about all this discussion and resistance from you guys. What are the trade offs for the community?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221527

The reasons to not use GitHub already exist. Therefore, it's better for people to stop using it. Therefore, it's better for Microsoft to acquire them...