Device::create_buffer is sometimes slow (4ms) and slows down rendering. about wgpu

[John-Nagle]

Waiting for wgpu-egui and wgpu-profiler to catch up to wgpu 22.0.0. Both have the appropriate pull requests.

[partisani]

What do you mean by Linux 22.04 LTS? The latest version of the linux kernel is 6.10

[John-Nagle]

Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

[Wumpf]

As far as I can tell, that ought to be a fast operation.

I think wgpu should do a better job documenting that it is in fact known to be a very slow operation.

That said, regardless it needs to be looked at if it really has to lock out render pass recording (or vice versa, not that it matters :)).
Wgpu is making some considerable progress in this area, so might be worth checking if the just released 22.0.0 got better in that regard, but I'd be kinda surprised if it's fundamentally different (but who knows! personally I lost a bit track of all the refactors that went in 😅).

Ideally, it would only be an "occasionally very slow" operation, i.e. whenever it actually happens to bottom out to an allocation in the driver (which shouldn't happen all that often)!

[John-Nagle]

just released (WGPU) 22.0.0

OK, I will upgrade all my code, and Rend3, and re-test. More tomorrow.

very slow operation.

Indeed. 4ms is slow for something in the main render loop.

[cwfitzgerald]

The buffer in question is the vertex buffer (you can tell by it being accessed by the mesh manager). This buffer can get very large, and large allocations can take a second for us to generate, as the underlying memory allocation takes a little bit. It shouldn't block the main thread, however.

[John-Nagle]

The buffer in question is the vertex buffer (you can tell by it being accessed by the mesh manager). This buffer can get very large, and large allocations can take a second for us to generate, as the underlying memory allocation takes a little bit. It shouldn't block the main thread, however.

Right. Profiling can show this happening, but extracting cross-thread cause and effect from profiling data is hard.

[John-Nagle]

The pull request to fix wgpu-profiling failed. See Wumpf/wgpu-profiler#75

A new WGPU version is needed to fix that, apparently.