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t-sommer avatar t-sommer commented on June 21, 2024 1

Exporters could add additional outputs to their test models if they think these variables should be part of the reference results.

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chrbertsch avatar chrbertsch commented on June 21, 2024

Are internal variables allowed as reference results or only outputs? In some importing tools I would not know how to get internal varibles (if the importing toolbox would not have the option to expose internal variables as additional outputs)

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andreas-junghanns avatar andreas-junghanns commented on June 21, 2024

If we cannot make parameters as reference, handling parameters can only be measured indirectly.
Not very nice, I think.

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t-sommer avatar t-sommer commented on June 21, 2024

On the other hand if the parameters have no significant influence on the output it's probably not a good test model...

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andreas-junghanns avatar andreas-junghanns commented on June 21, 2024

These are test FMUs. We are trying to spot errors easily. By excluding entire classes of variables, we make problem detection harder. If you now declare that parameters are suddenly not allowed as reference variables that a number of FMUs and their references might have to be changed again.

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t-sommer avatar t-sommer commented on June 21, 2024

Discussion at the Design Meeting Regensburg: No objections. Let's do this.

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chrbertsch avatar chrbertsch commented on June 21, 2024

Let's do this

What exactly did we decide in Regensburg?

Should we add a sentence to the rules that we allow all kinds of variables (if that was decided?)
How do we treat tools that can only record output values?

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ghorwin avatar ghorwin commented on June 21, 2024

A note on synonymous variables: some FMUs define several real variables with different names but same value reference and variable type -> hence, results will be the same (I call these synonymous variables). It would suffice to only have one of these variables in the reference results - otherwise it would be only a waste of hard drive space (and the git-repo may grow beyond meaningful limits).

With respect of logging internal variables, the cross-check rules should state that the submitted xxx_out.csv file shall only contain variables that are requested as reference results (again: save hard disk space and bandwidth).

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